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Hi everyone, I have only been here a few months so am trying to figure it all out. I took this picture of a clear blue sky and thought I would try my luck and upload it. It got rejected which is fine but I am not understanding the composition reason as to me its almost one solid colour. Though I'm sure there is a reason  so any help is greatly appreciated. 

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On 10/13/2019 at 8:01 PM, Vanessa Rose said:

Hi everyone, I have only been here a few months so am trying to figure it all out. I took this picture of a clear blue sky and thought I would try my luck and upload it. It got rejected which is fine but I am not understanding the composition reason as to me its almost one solid colour. Though I'm sure there is a reason  so any help is greatly appreciated. 

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Basically it is a way for the reviewer to tell that he finds the foto totally worthless (or that he does not like it). Rare rejection reason lately, it was a frequent reason of rejection a few years go. I should say, please take no offense, that I do agree with the reviewer, as this image can be produced, even in a much nicer form, with a gradient in photoshop, in one minute or less.

In addition, there is significant noise/artefacts in the image:

 

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On 10/13/2019 at 8:01 PM, Vanessa Rose said:

Hi everyone, I have only been here a few months so am trying to figure it all out. I took this picture of a clear blue sky and thought I would try my luck and upload it. It got rejected which is fine but I am not understanding the composition reason as to me its almost one solid colour. Though I'm sure there is a reason  so any help is greatly appreciated. 

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Great photo, I can't understand why it was rejected either. 
But you should pay more attention to the rule of third, that makes the composition more pleasing. 

 

 

 

 

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thank you Ackab for making me have a laugh...bit of 'blue sky' thinking and Vanessa nothing surprises me now at to the reasons for rejections...many of my blue sky images suffer from noise even though the main content would pass review IMHO ...am getting used to it!

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Hi Thank you everyone for your reply's it really help. I knew the picture was nothing special so can understand if they was meh with it. The reason confused me so am glad I'm not alone.  Thank you Ackab now I can see the noise. I only have a iPhone 6 so get a lot of rejection on noise and the dreaded focus. But thankfully I am learning all the time not just with Pictures but with Photoshop which helps with noise. I tell you what, I am still so surprised at how much I enjoy photography. 

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1 hour ago, D O-P Photography said:

Digital photography is a joy

I prefer the good old days in the darkroom. Developing your own negatives/positives and then printing it and seeing in develop right in front of your eyes, that was amazing. The only thing I don't miss is the smell of the chemicals and the costs 🙂.

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1 hour ago, D O-P Photography said:

Ah. Nostalgia's not what it used to be. I don't miss the cost of film + developing nor the disappointment once you get to see the photos. I do love the immediacy of digital and the infinite ability to redo until you are satisfied. Interesting re the darkroom.  It must be like magic to see the photos develop.

Don't forget, however, the costs of digital cameras. I don't know how much I have spent changing cameras every couple of years because the sensors have gotten better and of course the MegaPixel race. I had one of the 1st digital cameras by Canon the IOS, it used 2" floppy discs, and the resolution was VGA (640 x 480). Actually the camera companies screwed us over, at the end of the 90's there was talk of a digital film roll/replacement back for 35mm cameras, it never happened. They just introduced crap digital cameras. The only companies who actually did introduce replacement digital backs for their cameras where the medium format manufacturers Hasselblad and Mamiya. The 4MP rule used by SS doesn't even come close to the sharpness of a 35mm slide film, which was my preferred choice of film for printing photos, I never used negative film.

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On 10/13/2019 at 9:01 PM, Vanessa Rose said:

I took this picture of a clear blue sky

If you have a tele lens you can shoot a full moon at night and blend with blue sky. I had a friend shooting clouds and moon and make a stock with them to add them later to his landscape shots with clear skies. ^_^ 

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1 hour ago, D O-P Photography said:

You were well ahead of me. I used to dream of owning an Olympus Trip camera but it was only ever a dream. It was the fault of those David Bailey ads 😊 'who do you think I am David Bailey? '

You should check out the film of David McCallum ( one of the most famous British photographers ) making the transition from film to digital, and he is guided by specialists from Canon. I don't remember the exact film but you should be able to find it on YT. But he actually tries to take photos the same way he took photos with film, so NOT constantly checking on the screen to see the image, he said I'm making photos NOW and what I do with them later is an entirely different thing.

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10 hours ago, D O-P Photography said:

I don't miss the cost of film + developing nor the disappointment once you get to see the photos.

Well surely they weren't always disappointing!

I'm also considering using film a bit more myself after some things I discovered after coming back from Bali. I did some long exposures at night over there of swimming pools in villas and resorts illuminated by flood lighting. Really beautiful looking setups. A lot of the digital images turned out extremely noisy. Some turned out horrible with heaps of hot pixels, colour noise and generally poor quality results. I was really gutted. I also do long exposures using the same digital equipment here at home in Australia and the results are usually fine.

I think the reason for the poor quality results must have been the warm climate of Bali, heating up the sensor during the long exposures. And the exposure times weren't really all that long either which is surprising. Regardless, this would have been a non-issue if I was shooting on film. I really regret not bringing some film along on that trip. Some Fujichrome Provia 100F would have been ideal for the night time exposures. 

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21 hours ago, D O-P Photography said:

You have an excuse now to return to Bali. 

Very true! And from now on when I visit a place with a warm climate and good opportunities for long exposures, I'll make sure to bring along some film.

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3 hours ago, jean-francois.me said:

regardless of the rejection reason why submit this image?

Maybe because many others have had similar images accepted.

Like this fine very blue example: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/cloudless-sky-281084369

Description: Cloudless Sky

According to keywords it’s apparently many things: clear, cloudscape, cloudy, cumulonimbus,  cumulus, high, outdoor (do buyers search for ‘outdoor sky’), landscape (‽), scenic, texture etc..

Are images like this with clearly misleading keywords included in the 7,000 mistakes reviews allegedly make each week?

 

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15 minutes ago, Ricoh Mirai User Club said:

Maybe because many others have had similar images accepted.

Like this fine very blue example: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/cloudless-sky-281084369

Description: Cloudless Sky

According to keywords it’s apparently many things: clear, cloudscape, cloudy, cumulonimbus,  cumulus, high, outdoor (do buyers search for ‘outdoor sky’), landscape (‽), scenic, texture etc..

Are images like this with clearly misleading keywords included in the 7,000 mistakes reviews allegedly make each week?

 

wow, just wow.  remind my not to ask these question again

 

 

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