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On 8/1/2019 at 11:33 PM, Phil Lowe said:

I have read this information and it is very helpful.

But with respect to “Model releases” and shooting people, something just doesn’t feel right to me.

I would be able to convince someone to sign the Model release. But only if I don’t tell them that I have no control over the end use of the image. And that is my moral dilemma. In my mind, the face of a beautiful young lady smiling, could end up on a dating website. A picture of a naked todler could end up in a pervert’s database for all I know. 

If only SS would give more info about the procedures that are in place to protect the images that have a model release.

There should be a legal clause about using images in the customer agreement (pretty sure that this is already the case).

But what are the steps taken by SS when an image was used against those terms of agreement ?

I am hoping the first step is sending the customer that bought the image, a standard threatening legal e-mail. 

Pretty sure such an e-mail sent by an American company will have an impact. 

Or it might not be a bad idea to inform the customers in a friendly newsletter of the do’s and don’t on using SS’s images with people. (And ending with a legal sentence “Any breach of these terms will result in....). 

Maybe there are already many procedures in place, but as I don’t know what they are, I don’t want to take the risks. Not for myself, but even more so, not for my model.

Does anyone know a bit more about this ?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Evelyn de Waard said:

I have read this information and it is very helpful.

But with respect to “Model releases” and shooting people, something just doesn’t feel right to me.

I would be able to convince someone to sign the Model release. But only if I don’t tell them that I have no control over the end use of the image. And that is my moral dilemma. In my mind, the face of a beautiful young lady smiling, could end up on a dating website. A picture of a naked todler could end up in a pervert’s database for all I know. 

If only SS would give more info about the procedures that are in place to protect the images that have a model release.

There should be a legal clause about using images in the customer agreement (pretty sure that this is already the case).

But what are the steps taken by SS when an image was used against those terms of agreement ?

I am hoping the first step is sending the customer that bought the image, a standard threatening legal e-mail. 

Pretty sure such an e-mail sent by an American company will have an impact. 

Or it might not be a bad idea to inform the customers in a friendly newsletter of the do’s and don’t on using SS’s images with people. (And ending with a legal sentence “Any breach of these terms will result in....). 

Maybe there are already many procedures in place, but as I don’t know what they are, I don’t want to take the risks. Not for myself, but even more so, not for my model.

Does anyone know a bit more about this ?

 

 

The problem is all the laws and rules and actions in the world can't stop the illegal use of images, any images. Once they are online (whether through SS or on social media or anywhere else) criminals can and do use them. So no matter what SS have in place to protect an image it wont stop unscrupulous people doing what they like with them.

You should just make sure a potential model knows that anything can happen with their image once it's 'out there'. You and SS and anyone else can try to stop illegal use with take down notices, legal action etc, but it wont stop it happening in the first place. 

Also the licences allow for certain uses. You can check a box, somewhere from your dashboard, that means the images can't be sold for sensitive use. Otherwise a models image may end up on a poster for a political party they don't support, or to illustrate an article for sexually transmitted diseases, or something else they may not like quite legitimately.

Best practise is to make it clear to the model that once the image is on the internet anything can happen to it and give some worse case examples. Like being plastered on the side of a bus for some ad campaign the don't agree with, or having their head cut out and used on a naked body on some porn site or whatever else you can think of. If they aren't comfortable with that they probably shouldn't do it. Of course these are worst case scenarios and probably wont happen, but the possibility is there and they should be aware of it.

I'll be doing a shoot soon with someone who doesn't want to be recognised, so I'll still use her but with no shots that can id her. She's happy to model for me so long as I do it that way. May be you could try the same sort of thing.

I would never hide the fact that you have no control of the image from thieves once it's been uploaded. 

There's some copyright infringement info in the TOS for contributors https://www.shutterstock.com/contributorsupport/articles/en_US/kbat02/Submitter-Terms-of-Service-version-8?q=legal+action&l=en_US&fs=Search&pn=1 There is probably something similar for buyers.

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Thank you Linda, this is very helpful. 👍

I might take a shot at it this weekend as there is an outdoor event in my neighborhood.

Who knows. I might end up with actual people images in my portfolio, instead of .. toilet rolls and vegan crips. 🤣🤣🤪

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On 5/27/2020 at 12:04 AM, Lorenzo Sala said:

New Contributors? ahahah! learn about the new earning scheme from june 1st ...New Contributor, 'bye Contributor

Yeah, I just wanted to start my career of stock photographer. But now I am not so sure now.

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This is actually useful, but if some senior guys here can assist my question.

I am trying to upload only illustration created using Adobe illustrator. I came across somewhere that I cant  have effects such as outer shadow inner shadow etc..if such kind of rules for illustration can be seen anywhere together it will be helpful. 

Link to such article will be helpful .

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