Alexandre Rotenberg Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I’ll pull out my tripod next time at the airport 🤪 Surely they should have a lower technical standard for editorials. How are people doing with smartphone pics here? Below captured with iPhone X Link to post Share on other sites
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Former_Poster Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 To be fair i can see noise in that. Not all cellphones are equal. A lot of people (not you) are trying to submit utter garbage with 5-10 year old cell phones which rightly gets rejected. That said we do know "focus" is just a nonsense reason for a rejection and has nothing to do with focus. In other news, wtf is that person wearing?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sheila Fitzgerald Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 You know if you hold your finger on the screen you can set your focus point before taking the photo, and then once it locks (yellow box will fix in place) you can run your finger up or down the screen to adjust your lighting. I have quite a few iphone images accepted. I only use the phone in places where a full frame camera would be awkward or I don't have my camera with me though. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexandre Rotenberg Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 I admit that I’m a newbie at smartphone camera and would like to use it more often at sensitive places (such as airports where this was taken). My DSLR and especially the 70-300mm lens is just too much of an attention grabber. I (naively) thought the iPhone X which I purchased this month would be good enough but I guess the 12 is better for low light places. I need to play around with the settings. The subject was standing in the check in queue at bajaras airport in Madrid for a flight to China. Wearing full on covid protection (to later discard after the flight). Matching luggage. Thought was interesting and topical. Let’s see if Alamy will accept it, seems more suited for their buyers. Link to post Share on other sites
Matylda Laurence Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Alexandre a large number in my port editorials are from my iPhone 5s and were readily accepted until the silly focus and noise rejections. Some of which are my biggest sellers. I don't bother now for a base of 10 cents although I had a 31 and 23 cents sub this week which I think is because at the time of taking them they were current and as often said if the buyer needs that image then it is sold ... Link to post Share on other sites
Sheila Fitzgerald Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 This guy is decent to listen to. I got most of my information from another videographer, but I can't find his links right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Roman Tiraspolsky Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I have a bunch that have been accepted. Done with my old iPhone 7. I noticed that recently they started rejecting everything on the first go. My recent experience is quite limited but still... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Former_Poster Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 55 minutes ago, Alexandre Rotenberg said: Let’s see if Alamy will accept it, seems more suited for their buyers. I did the same in Bangkok and the last UK flight before quarantine. The batch has earned me 20c on here and $0 on Alamy. Dont plan your retirement. Can the apple things shoot in RAW for photos? Better option if so. Link to post Share on other sites
Milleflore Images Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, Alexandre Rotenberg said: I admit that I’m a newbie at smartphone camera and would like to use it more often at sensitive places (such as airports where this was taken). My DSLR and especially the 70-300mm lens is just too much of an attention grabber. I (naively) thought the iPhone X which I purchased this month would be good enough but I guess the 12 is better for low light places. I need to play around with the settings. The subject was standing in the check in queue at bajaras airport in Madrid for a flight to China. Wearing full on covid protection (to later discard after the flight). Matching luggage. Thought was interesting and topical. Let’s see if Alamy will accept it, seems more suited for their buyers. Alex, I wrote about how to get smartphone and gopro pics (which are similar technology) passed review on an earlier thread. I used to have similar problems with GoPro images. Hopefully this may help: I need help with my rejected photos - Introductions and New Contributor Questions - Shutterstock - Forum Posted November 20 I thought I would add some tips here for the OP or anyone else using smartphones and GoPro cameras on how you may get them accepted for stock agencies. 1. Only shoot with a lot of light to lower noise. 2. Do not add any additional post processing. Most of the time these sort of cameras look good anyway. But do not increase saturation or lighten the photos because this will exaggerate all the imperfections. 3. Do not use noise reduction filters or sharpening tools for the same reason. 4. Use the blur tool in PS or similar software and go gently around all areas EXCEPT the main focus area to smooth out all the noise. This will give the appearance of a much more smoother surface and often helps with reviewers. 5. Try and really nail the main focus area. 6. Downsize your photo. Photos always look better and imperfections less noticeable when photos are smaller. When focus is borderline, then this really helps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
oleschwander Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I also shoot with iPhone 7 now and then. But the lighting have to be very good - preferable outdoor and I think its the same for newer iPhones as well. ‘All’ my videos are shot with my iPhone 7 most in 4K - most of them handheld and color graded. Link to post Share on other sites
Sari ONeal Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 39 minutes ago, Milleflore Images said: 1. Only shoot with a lot of light to lower noise. I think this is the most important thing of all. Alex's image above was taken indoors and the light is not adequate. Outdoors, you'd have better chance of having enough light. Disclaimer - I've never submitted a smartphone pic or video since my phone was an old model when I got it three (?) years ago, and it's just not sufficient, IMHO, for stock pics of video even in the best conditions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ackab Photography Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Alexandre Rotenberg said: How are people doing with smartphone pics here? I actually do very well, I'd say 90% accepted. I think in the photo you posted light was way too low, so you have a long exposure resulting in motion blur. Also very noisy. If you have a night mode on the iPhone 10 I would use it, it does miracles on my Huawei p30, taking plenty of photos and stacking them together. Good for night shots but also in low light. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
oleschwander Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ackab Photography said: Good for night shots but also in low light. Wow - that’s impressive ..! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Former_Poster Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 P30 (and now P40) have the best mobile cameras by some margin though. Significantly better than iphone releases currently. Pixel phones arent far off either. Link to post Share on other sites
James Jiao Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I use Huawei P40. There are the phone photos sold recently: The foodpanda was taken in good light condition; others were in restaurant, train, subway, airport, with relatively poor light 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stevemart Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 It's photography Jim but not as we know it! 😀 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_photography Link to post Share on other sites
balajisrinivasan Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I get about 70 percent of my cellphone photos accepted. And all are taken by a Galaxy S7, a smartphone that's now about over 5 years old. But typically I reduce resolution and submit to cover some of the noise/artifact issues. Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Try using "Sharpening" and "Noise Reduction" in Lightroom while image is magnified by 300%. You'll see the difference made. The photo looks underexposed. Maybe because it's underexposed, it's noisy. Tiny smartphone sensor may not be good for indoor photos. Link to post Share on other sites
Doug McLean Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 1:53 PM, Alexandre Rotenberg said: I’ll pull out my tripod next time at the airport 🤪 Surely they should have a lower technical standard for editorials. How are people doing with smartphone pics here? Below captured with iPhone X Shutterstock doesn't care what you use (phone, DSLR, P&S, etc), as long as the photos meet the quality standards. Sorry but the photo you posted isn't even close. Link to post Share on other sites
James Jiao Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 when I submit a phone photo, it is rejected often with this comment even I did not editing: Content contains chrominance noise, luminance noise, sharpening noise, or film grain that detracts from the main subject. Link to post Share on other sites
Former_Poster Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 noise and grain are nothing to do with editing. Part of the reason you DO edit is to get rid of them... Link to post Share on other sites
Ackab Photography Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 6:53 PM, Alexandre Rotenberg said: I’ll pull out my tripod next time at the airport 🤪 Surely they should have a lower technical standard for editorials. How are people doing with smartphone pics here? Below captured with iPhone X Alexandre, I understand you are new to the game. Just keep shooting and uploading, things will get better. Never give up. Here's a reference blog that can definitely help you: https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/ Have a nice day. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Alexandre Rotenberg Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ackab Photography said: Alexandre, I understand you are new to the game. Just keep shooting and uploading, things will get better. Never give up. Here's a reference blog that can definitely help you: https://brutallyhonestmicrostock.com/ Have a nice day. That guy is a giant turd who doesn’t know what he’s taking about! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Jose HERNANDEZ Camera 51 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 22 hours ago, Alexandre Rotenberg said: That guy is a giant turd who doesn’t know what he’s taking about! AH ah ah no way, i think its a joke lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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