blvdone Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 How's your November video sales on Shutterstock? I unlicensed my video portfolio in late July. So, I'll give you how the sales are on Pond5 and Adobe Stock so far in November. On Pond5, sales are on a pace to 20% up from November 2019. I had 50% up sales in September and October on Pond5 compared to the same months in 2019. So, it's a slow down. Adobe Stock seems on the same pace as in 2019 November. I don't like Pond5 slowing down. I may have to re-license on Shutterstock again to see how that'll affect sales on Pond5 and Adobe Stock although I hate the disgustingly cheap video subscription and free clips giveaway Shutterstock has been doing. I hope I won't have to re-license videos here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Tritton Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Was just coming in to post about this. Just had another sale on pond5 bringing this to three video sales for this month at an average $28 per video. This follows last month with three video sales on Pond5 averaging over $21 each. I soooo hope Pond5 can continue with this as they treat contributors far more better than here. This places Pond5 at number one for November so far and Adobe Stock in second and Shutterstock a pitiful third place with results beginning to resemble iStock and other small aencies. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Steven Tritton said: Was just coming in to post about this. Just had another sale on pond5 bringing this to three video sales for this month at an average $28 per video. This follows last month with three video sales on Pond5 averaging over $21 each. I soooo hope Pond5 can continue with this as they treat contributors far more better than here. This places Pond5 at number one for November so far and Adobe Stock in second and Shutterstock a pitiful third place with results beginning to resemble iStock and other small aencies. Did you used to have more consistent video sales on Shutterstock before they started the video subscription? Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Tritton Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, blvdone said: Did you used to have more consistent video sales on Shutterstock before they started the video subscription? Given I didn't start uploading video until July 2019 I would asses video sales started to pick up once 2020 started. Video sales weren't too bad even following the new pricing structure in June, though they were lower commissions I figured I can accept this so long as sales volume increases or at least stays the same. I guess November has really dampened my view of Shutterstock as there has only been one video sale so far for a pathetic $3.00. That's crap compared to other sites such as Adobe and Pond5. Hence my comment about Pond5 treating their contributors much better as contributors receive a 40% commission on sales (60% if exclusive though I am not in this program). I still really hope Shutterstock picks back up. Looking forward, December was utterly poor in 2019 so hopefully this year it will improve. But then we have this reset in January. Seriously this is just cynical treatment of contributors. So glad customers are shopping elsewhere for video footage such as Pond5 as my past two months of numbers are showing. Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Steven Tritton said: Given I didn't start uploading video until July 2019 I would asses video sales started to pick up once 2020 started. Video sales weren't too bad even following the new pricing structure in June, though they were lower commissions I figured I can accept this so long as sales volume increases or at least stays the same. I guess November has really dampened my view of Shutterstock as there has only been one video sale so far for a pathetic $3.00. That's crap compared to other sites such as Adobe and Pond5. Hence my comment about Pond5 treating their contributors much better as contributors receive a 40% commission on sales (60% if exclusive though I am not in this program). I still really hope Shutterstock picks back up. Looking forward, December was utterly poor in 2019 so hopefully this year it will improve. But then we have this reset in January. Seriously this is just cynical treatment of contributors. So glad customers are shopping elsewhere for video footage such as Pond5 as my past two months of numbers are showing. The sad thing is that $3 commission may be for a 4K video clip sale on subscription by some big production/TV station buyer that can afford the most discounted annual subscription plan. You could've made 20x on a 4k sale on Pond5 or Adobe Stock. That just scares me to go back to Shutterstock selling videos. If those big buyers start paying $9.95 instead of $199 for 4k clips, it's so bad for our business. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tawrat Ferdousi Branding Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Well, how many videos should I have on the portfolio to get the first video sell? A complete nooob qustion. And I am tired of 0.10 c sales also :'( 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Jungle Explorer Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Tawrat Ferdousi Branding said: Well, how many videos should I have on the portfolio to get the first video sell? A complete nooob qustion. And I am tired of 0.10 c sales also 😢 +1 I have completely stopped taking pictures and am only shooting 4K video for stock now. Haven't sold anything yet, but I only have about a dozen videos up. I only shoot wild things, so it is an opportunity thing and since I am not making any money, I am not putting much effort behind it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Tritton Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 hours ago, blvdone said: The sad thing is that $3 commission may be for a 4K video clip sale on subscription by some big production/TV station buyer that can afford the most discounted annual subscription plan. You could've made 20x on a 4k sale on Pond5 or Adobe Stock. That just scares me to go back to Shutterstock selling videos. If those big buyers start paying $9.95 instead of $199 for 4k clips, it's so bad for our business. Yes and image sales on Shutterstock are not much better, actually I think it's worse. Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Tawrat Ferdousi Branding said: Well, how many videos should I have on the portfolio to get the first video sell? A complete nooob qustion. And I am tired of 0.10 c sales also :'( My advice is to be patient till you pass 1,000 clips and just keep shooting and uploading. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Shutterstock selling our video clips cheap may increase their revenue, but that will decrease our overall stock video revenue from all sites because buyers who used to pay full price at Pond5 and Adobe Stock will now pay something like $9.95/4k clip on Shutterstock instead. We the contributors should be aware of that danger to our businesses. Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 So, I recommend everybody to un-license video portfolio on Shutterstock to protect our businesses. Try it for a month or two in slow winter and see what happens. You can always re-license after 30 days. Move all your editorial clips to Pond5 exclusive account and get 60% royalty instead of $3 royalty for 4k video on Shutterstock subscription. Link to post Share on other sites
Former_Poster Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 So far SS video sales about $400 this month (which is lower than usual). AS about the same (increasing almost every month). Pond5 is on $38 for the same time period.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, Former_Poster said: So far SS video sales about $400 this month (which is lower than usual). AS about the same (increasing almost every month). Pond5 is on $38 for the same time period.... Is SS video sales a little worse than November 2019? Link to post Share on other sites
Former_Poster Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 In terms of numbers, no. 2020 Nov has higher numbers (already) than 2019 *BUT* lower earnings at this point in time due to the crazy cheap video packages. Ive had 1 x $105 sale this month without which it would be depressing. So basically im selling more videos but for a lot less money (and from January will be far far worse) Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Kuhlman Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 $0 in video sales in November as of 11/15. Link to post Share on other sites
Tawrat Ferdousi Branding Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, blvdone said: My advice is to be patient till you pass 1,000 clips and just keep shooting and uploading. I do animation kind of stuff. And I don't have any camera. Does the rule also apples for this situation? Link to post Share on other sites
Tawrat Ferdousi Branding Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 9 hours ago, The Jungle Explorer said: I have completely stopped taking pictures and am only shooting 4K video for stock now. Haven't sold anything yet, but I only have about a dozen videos up. I only shoot wild things, so it is an opportunity thing and since I am not making any money, I am not putting much effort behind it. Yes, I think If it gives us better results we should go for it. But we should not skip still and vector completely until we get the result. Best of luck to you also. and hope you will keep adding videos to your portfolios like me 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Tritton Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 22 hours ago, blvdone said: So, I recommend everybody to un-license video portfolio on Shutterstock to protect our businesses. Try it for a month or two in slow winter and see what happens. You can always re-license after 30 days. Move all your editorial clips to Pond5 exclusive account and get 60% royalty instead of $3 royalty for 4k video on Shutterstock subscription. May as well unlicence images for precisely the same reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Hamza Makhchoune Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/15/2020 at 5:16 AM, Tawrat Ferdousi Branding said: Well, how many videos should I have on the portfolio to get the first video sell? A complete nooob qustion. And I am tired of 0.10 c sales also 😢 You have a nice video portfolio, what software do you use to create those videos?? Link to post Share on other sites
Tawrat Ferdousi Branding Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Hamza Makhchoune said: You have a nice video portfolio, what software do you use to create those videos?? Thanks for your compliment. I am using Blender and Adobe After effects. I am still learning these two software. whatever I learn each day, I am trying to make some stock footage with it. And my videos are nothing compared to other people who are using these software and making amazing stuffs. Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, Travers Lewis said: After deleting my videos off here I've made the decision to go exclusive somewhere else. 15% or 60% commission is a no brainer in my eyes. Good luck!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Former_Poster Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Its not quite that simple. 15% of a large number is more than 60% of a very small number. Your mileage may vary. Link to post Share on other sites
Tawrat Ferdousi Branding Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Travers Lewis said: True, but I had my videos up here for around 4 months and made no sales. Then I moved them over to the other site and made 2 sales with $45 commission over the same time frame. I only went exclusive for video yesterday so hopefully it will work out. Time will tell 😊 On which platfrom you have gone exclusive? Link to post Share on other sites
Tawrat Ferdousi Branding Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, Travers Lewis said: Pond5. I'm still focusing on SS for photos though. Oh great great. How many item do you have on your exclusive portfolio? did you got sale there? Yes, for still SS is doing it's job. Link to post Share on other sites
ashok india Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 This month 3 video clips sales but income - 0.43, 1.77, 1.46 Bad sales income shutterstock... What next SS? Link to post Share on other sites
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