Posted June 3 Let’s have self-esteem and stop doing it for free. The pandemic crisis has affected us all, but the SS is trying to make up for those who are building its business. This is wrong and exploitative. Therefore, I call everyone to stop loading new jobs. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3 USD 0.10 for my image shot on a high end Nikon, expensive glass, spend my hard earned money going to the exotic locations, spend hours in front of my PC editing and bringing it upto world standards? Are you crazy? Even a beggar won't accept USD 0.10. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3 It's too much disrespectful and offensive. I'm out! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3 I stopped uploading and sent an email to the CEO ... I encourage everyone to as well. See the 2020 Executive Team Group Photo topic for email addresses. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3 We should all stop. That's the only way. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3 Uploading stopped right away after 0.10 & 0.14 emerged. Do you have self-respect? Then STOP UPLOAD! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 Not loading is not a solution, the real solution is Opting out of sales mode . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 I think SS actually wants you to stop uploads. There's already been a huge increase in the library in the last 2 years. It's expensive to maintain all that storage space. I just uploaded a batch last night. Woke up today, all rejected because of 'grain'. I thought: That's strange. The grain isn't any worse than past photos I uploaded. So it seems they don't want my uploads anymore. As individual contributors we're powerless. The only way we can gain leverage is to organize and collectively disable or delete our portfolios. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Dan Campbell said: I think SS actually wants you to stop uploads. There's already been a huge increase in the library in the last 2 years. It's expensive to maintain all that storage space. I just uploaded a batch last night. Woke up today, all rejected because of 'grain'. I thought: That's strange. The grain isn't any worse than past photos I uploaded. So it seems they don't want my uploads anymore. As individual contributors we're powerless. The only way we can gain leverage is to organize and collectively disable or delete our portfolios. I think its trends, sellers. The old saying 'you never know what will sell' is obsolete cause SS knows exactly what sells. Why hold a bunch of pictures that make no money or maybe one person somewhere in BFE buys it? If you upload a batch of potato photos and they all get rejected it cause there are too many . Upload a photo of protesters etc they will get accepted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 Were are the big earners in this (if there are any ..? 😂)? Anybody knows about it? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 9 minutes ago, Maxal Tamor said: People continue to upload… 😅 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 19 minutes ago, Maxal Tamor said: People continue to upload… Don't let SS make you become a finger pointer. That's bad style. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 15 hours ago, Paulo Rocha said: It's too much disrespectful and offensive. I'm out! Nothing to add. 100%! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 17 hours ago, Sigitas Duoblis said: Let’s have self-esteem and stop doing it for free. The pandemic crisis has affected us all, but the SS is trying to make up for those who are building its business. This is wrong and exploitative. Therefore, I call everyone to stop loading new jobs. STOP UPLOADING ALL CONTRIBUTOR WAIT for FEW DAYS hopefully SS will back on old Price. otherwise next step is withdrawing or deleting account. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 28 minutes ago, Oliver Denker said: Don't let SS make you become a finger pointer. That's bad style. Yes, you are right. Thank you. Post deleted 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 For me, I have decided not to deactivate my account with SS, but to upload nothing more. As a minimum time for this a few days or a month are much too little, the volatility is just too big. Therefore SS will not receive any new photos or videos from me until the end of the year. After that I will continue to look. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 1 minute ago, geogif said: For me, I have decided not to deactivate my account with SS, but to upload nothing more. As a minimum time for this a few days or a month are much too little, the volatility is just too big. Therefore SS will not receive any new photos or videos from me until the end of the year. After that I will continue to look. why do you keep selling? that it's not a bit duplicitous? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 Just now, Amir Bajric said: why do you keep selling? that it's not a bit duplicitous? Do I really have to write the answer explicitly here? I wasn't gonna do that, but okay: Despite all the justified hate and anger about the unsocial and unfair decision of SS, the sales figures are still the highest among all agencies. How much the new tariff structure will affect, is not really clear (at least to me). I cannot judge or estimate how the miserable decision of SS will affect my personal PF. The reason is that we do not know the buyer structure. But with the new participation model, the buyer structure is the defining element for sales. Many small buyers, high turnover, many large buyers, low turnover. I have no idea what that looks like in my case. And the only way to get data here is to keep watching the game. Even if these 0.1 sales bring tears to my eyes. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, geogif said: Do I really have to write the answer explicitly here? I wasn't gonna do that, but okay: Despite all the justified hate and anger about the unsocial and unfair decision of SS, the sales figures are still the highest among all agencies. How much the new tariff structure will affect, is not really clear (at least to me). I cannot judge or estimate how the miserable decision of SS will affect my personal PF. The reason is that we do not know the buyer structure. But with the new participation model, the buyer structure is the defining element for sales. Many small buyers, high turnover, many large buyers, low turnover. I have no idea what that looks like in my case. And the only way to get data here is to keep watching the game. Even if these 0.1 sales bring tears to my eyes. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) math is a simple thing dear friend, you will be poorer those richer 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 I have already stopped, this miserable Enterprise won't have one of my new photos anymore, they are going to Adobe and Getty. F. SS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 12 minutes ago, Amir Bajric said: math is a simple thing dear friend, you will be poorer those richer That depends on who buys your photos. If it's the big buyers with the 350 or 750 contracts, you're absolutely right. In this case, everyone, even those with a high level, will lose more than 50%. The situation is different if you have photos that are of interest to special groups of buyers with small contracts. Here the participation model (which I understand in principle) can bring higher revenues than the previous model. I do not know my buyers. That's why I can't calculate anything, just like you. EDIT Right now, it looks like I have a lot of big buyers. Despite many sales, my turnover is declining significantly. However, I've been around long enough to know that you can't extrapolate the trend from 4 days to a year. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 3 minutes ago, geogif said: That depends on who buys your photos. If it's the big buyers with the 350 or 750 contracts, you're absolutely right. In this case, everyone, even those with a high level, will lose more than 50%. The situation is different if you have photos that are of interest to special groups of buyers with small contracts. Here the participation model (which I understand in principle) can bring higher revenues than the previous model. I do not know my buyers. That's why I can't calculate anything, just like you. I wish you luck, for me I'm not important only I but also all the others, that's the difference 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 11 minutes ago, Amir Bajric said: I wish you luck, for me I'm not important only I but also all the others, that's the difference I don't know how many agencies you've put your photos. But if, like me, there's more than one, you've probably experienced something weird: The top sellers of one agency are on the shelves of another, some agencies sell mainly new pictures, others seem to need a certain time to mature. Not only the agencies differ, but also the buyers who are represented by the agencies. Therefore it is important to supply the right agencies for the composition of your own PF. And for this you need data. The problem is not that SS now offer a participation model. In principle, a participation model is a fair way to get paid. The problems are that - the level of percentage for us in SS is so insultingly low, - the prices for photos in large contracts are so low, and - SS overpayments by not using the entire contract in their own pockets without involving us. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4 I stopped as soon as the announcement came out 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
