Polozov arts Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, TBT Honest said: Im good with SS new earnings change, I trust Shutterstock that they had no other choice but to do it, I have zero respect for contributors trashing Shutterstock online, on social media and in this forum and I think everyone that does it should be banned for life from SS. Show some respect for the guys that put in tons of work for you to have a platform to sell your work in times when it’s heading straight to Unlimited free downloads, SS is doing it’s best to provide good sales EVERY SINGLE DAY ! Chill ! The entire world is on its knees with all this Corona Virus and you go around shaming SS ????????? Calling to ban them ???? 10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you’ll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD ! Work Harder ! 90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea. If you’re here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort. What other choice did SS have ? take a deep breath and think about it, look around, read the map and thank god every morning for SS. People started posting financial reports (I read all of them when they come out) stating they have this much and that much, I wish SS will go back to the glory days of higher stock price, they deserve it, its an amazing platform with amazing people putting an amazing amount of hard work for you to be able to do what you love and get paid on time and run it like clock work. SHOW SOME RESPECT ! And for the love of god, the Levels are perfectly balanced, wanna go level 6? Do you want SS to create a level 7 just for you? WORK FOR IT ! I think SS should remove any account that also sell at these “unlimited” sites, that is giving SS a bad name. Long live SHUTTERSTOCK, a fair, welcoming and professional company. Shutterstock is doing the right thing for them and for US. I don’t work for SS (I wish I did, honestly). I don’t know anyone that works for SS. I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock no, not just like us. there's no idiots here 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Rudy Matchinga Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Polozov arts said: 50 minutes ago, TBT Honest said: Im good with SS new earnings change, I trust Shutterstock that they had no other choice but to do it, I have zero respect for contributors trashing Shutterstock online, on social media and in this forum and I think everyone that does it should be banned for life from SS. Show some respect for the guys that put in tons of work for you to have a platform to sell your work in times when it’s heading straight to Unlimited free downloads, SS is doing it’s best to provide good sales EVERY SINGLE DAY ! Chill ! The entire world is on its knees with all this Corona Virus and you go around shaming SS ????????? Calling to ban them ???? 10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you’ll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD ! Work Harder ! 90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea. If you’re here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort. What other choice did SS have ? take a deep breath and think about it, look around, read the map and thank god every morning for SS. People started posting financial reports (I read all of them when they come out) stating they have this much and that much, I wish SS will go back to the glory days of higher stock price, they deserve it, its an amazing platform with amazing people putting an amazing amount of hard work for you to be able to do what you love and get paid on time and run it like clock work. SHOW SOME RESPECT ! And for the love of god, the Levels are perfectly balanced, wanna go level 6? Do you want SS to create a level 7 just for you? WORK FOR IT ! I think SS should remove any account that also sell at these “unlimited” sites, that is giving SS a bad name. Long live SHUTTERSTOCK, a fair, welcoming and professional company. Shutterstock is doing the right thing for them and for US. I don’t work for SS (I wish I did, honestly). I don’t know anyone that works for SS. I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock Rubbish. Has no portfolio. 12 Link to post Share on other sites
Dolwolfian Photography Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Przemek Iciak said: You just joined with no portfolio to write this? Haha that's sad. Get a life 15 minutes ago, Rudy Matchinga said: 1 hour ago, TBT Honest said: Im good with SS new earnings change, I trust Shutterstock that they had no other choice but to do it, I have zero respect for contributors trashing Shutterstock online, on social media and in this forum and I think everyone that does it should be banned for life from SS. Show some respect for the guys that put in tons of work for you to have a platform to sell your work in times when it’s heading straight to Unlimited free downloads, SS is doing it’s best to provide good sales EVERY SINGLE DAY ! Chill ! The entire world is on its knees with all this Corona Virus and you go around shaming SS ????????? Calling to ban them ???? 10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you’ll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD ! Work Harder ! 90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea. If you’re here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort. What other choice did SS have ? take a deep breath and think about it, look around, read the map and thank god every morning for SS. People started posting financial reports (I read all of them when they come out) stating they have this much and that much, I wish SS will go back to the glory days of higher stock price, they deserve it, its an amazing platform with amazing people putting an amazing amount of hard work for you to be able to do what you love and get paid on time and run it like clock work. SHOW SOME RESPECT ! And for the love of god, the Levels are perfectly balanced, wanna go level 6? Do you want SS to create a level 7 just for you? WORK FOR IT ! I think SS should remove any account that also sell at these “unlimited” sites, that is giving SS a bad name. Long live SHUTTERSTOCK, a fair, welcoming and professional company. Shutterstock is doing the right thing for them and for US. I don’t work for SS (I wish I did, honestly). I don’t know anyone that works for SS. I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock Wow! How much did you get from them to say that? Btw same copy/paste from several "members" 🤣 Can't even be realistic! Fake News is back 🤣 14 Link to post Share on other sites
Victoria Kondysenko Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, TBT Honest said: Я гарний із зміною нових заробітків на SS, я довіряю Shutterstock, що у них не було іншого вибору, крім того, як це зробити, у мене нульова повага до дописувачів, які торкають Shutterstock в Інтернеті, в соціальних мережах та на цьому форумі, і я думаю, що всі, хто це робить, повинні бути заборонені життя від СС. Проявіть певну повагу до хлопців, які вкладають тони роботи, щоб мати платформу, щоб продавати свою роботу в часи, коли він прямує до Безмежних безкоштовних завантажень, SS робить все, що найкраще забезпечити хороші продажі КОЖНІЙ ДЕНЬ! Застуда! Весь світ стоїть на колінах з усім цим вірусом Корона, і ви їдете навколо, соромлячись СС ????????? Закликаючи заборонити їх ???? 10 центів мінімум за суб? Працюйте наполегливо, будьте оригінальні, досліджуйте, і я гарантую, що ви будете робити мільйон продажів на рік. ВАЖКО ПРАЦЮВАТИ ! Працюй старанніше ! 90% негативних коментарів тут з невеликих лінивих портфелів, SS Said в електронному листі хочуть нагородити працьовитих співробітників, і це чудова ідея. Якщо ви тут, щоб заробити гроші, є багато! Багато зробити, Просто докладіть зусиль. Який ще вибір мав SS? зробіть глибокий вдих і подумайте, огляньтесь, прочитайте карту і дякуйте богу щоранку за СС. Люди почали публікувати фінансові звіти (я читаю їх усіх, коли вони виходять), вказуючи, що у них цього є багато, і я хочу, щоб СС повернувся до днів слави вищою ціною акцій, вони цього заслуговують, її дивовижна платформа з дивовижною люди прикладають для вас дивовижну кількість важкої роботи, щоб мати можливість робити те, що любите, і отримувати заробітну плату вчасно, і запускати це як роботу годинника. ПОКАЗУЙТЕ ДЕЯКУ ВІДПОВІДЬ! А для любові до бога Рівні ідеально збалансовані, хочете пройти рівень 6? Ви хочете, щоб СС створив рівень 7 саме для вас? РОБОТА ДЛЯ ІТ! Я думаю, що СС повинен видалити будь-який обліковий запис, який також продається на цих "необмежених" сайтах, тобто SS дає невірне ім'я. Хай живе SHUTTERSTOCK, чесна, привітна та професійна компанія. Shutterstock робить все правильно і для них, і для США. Я не працюю в СС (хотілося б, щоб це зробили, чесно). Я не знаю нікого, хто працює для SS. Я - учасник, як і ви, не найкращий, але не маленький. @Kate Shutterstock Show your portfolio, please! 13 Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_M_Rabe Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Images removed from sale. Not deleted. Will see how things play out. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Ahturner Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Really disappointing news. Follow me on Instagram @stock_photography_dude to see what I'm doing about it and to see recent sales. Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Urrutia Carlos Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, TBT Honest said: Im good with SS new earnings change, I trust Shutterstock that they had no other choice but to do it, I have zero respect for contributors trashing Shutterstock online, on social media and in this forum and I think everyone that does it should be banned for life from SS. Show some respect for the guys that put in tons of work for you to have a platform to sell your work in times when it’s heading straight to Unlimited free downloads, SS is doing it’s best to provide good sales EVERY SINGLE DAY ! Chill ! The entire world is on its knees with all this Corona Virus and you go around shaming SS ????????? Calling to ban them ???? 10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you’ll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD ! Work Harder ! 90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea. If you’re here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort. What other choice did SS have ? take a deep breath and think about it, look around, read the map and thank god every morning for SS. People started posting financial reports (I read all of them when they come out) stating they have this much and that much, I wish SS will go back to the glory days of higher stock price, they deserve it, its an amazing platform with amazing people putting an amazing amount of hard work for you to be able to do what you love and get paid on time and run it like clock work. SHOW SOME RESPECT ! And for the love of god, the Levels are perfectly balanced, wanna go level 6? Do you want SS to create a level 7 just for you? WORK FOR IT ! I think SS should remove any account that also sell at these “unlimited” sites, that is giving SS a bad name. Long live SHUTTERSTOCK, a fair, welcoming and professional company. Shutterstock is doing the right thing for them and for US. I don’t work for SS (I wish I did, honestly). I don’t know anyone that works for SS. I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock Troll alert. 16 Link to post Share on other sites
Dolwolfian Photography Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Daniel Urrutia Carlos said: Troll alert. Not really, SS counter attack! 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Bakstad Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Turned off my account and will not reactivated it until they offer us a fair royalty structure. Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Urrutia Carlos Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Dolwolfian Photography said: Not really, SS counter attack! Do they really need to. Do you think Kate is posing as Mr. Honest? 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Behind Image Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, TBT Honest said: Im good with SS new earnings change, I trust Shutterstock that they had no other choice but to do it, I have zero respect for contributors trashing Shutterstock online, on social media and in this forum and I think everyone that does it should be banned for life from SS. Show some respect for the guys that put in tons of work for you to have a platform to sell your work in times when it’s heading straight to Unlimited free downloads, SS is doing it’s best to provide good sales EVERY SINGLE DAY ! Chill ! The entire world is on its knees with all this Corona Virus and you go around shaming SS ????????? Calling to ban them ???? 10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you’ll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD ! Work Harder ! 90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea. If you’re here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort. What other choice did SS have ? take a deep breath and think about it, look around, read the map and thank god every morning for SS. People started posting financial reports (I read all of them when they come out) stating they have this much and that much, I wish SS will go back to the glory days of higher stock price, they deserve it, its an amazing platform with amazing people putting an amazing amount of hard work for you to be able to do what you love and get paid on time and run it like clock work. SHOW SOME RESPECT ! And for the love of god, the Levels are perfectly balanced, wanna go level 6? Do you want SS to create a level 7 just for you? WORK FOR IT ! I think SS should remove any account that also sell at these “unlimited” sites, that is giving SS a bad name. Long live SHUTTERSTOCK, a fair, welcoming and professional company. Shutterstock is doing the right thing for them and for US. I don’t work for SS (I wish I did, honestly). I don’t know anyone that works for SS. I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock Your post only show that you don't have any respect for colleagues, for your work even for yourself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Puffin's Pictures Posted May 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, TBT Honest said: 10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you’ll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD ! Work Harder ! 90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea. If you’re here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort. @Kate Shutterstock Go away. Small, lazy portfolios? "Just put in the effort"? I can't speak for others but mine is "small" because I exercise self control and quality control. I have walked upwards of 35k to take a single shot. I have been bitten, burned, frozen, injured, and nearly died at least twice. I have also put myself in danger from other humans because for me, photography is not just my job, it's life itself. I and many others are worth far more than Shutterstock thinks we are. All they care about is lining their pockets off OUR blood, sweat, and hard work. 33 Link to post Share on other sites
aluxum Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, TBT Honest said: I don’t work for SS (I wish I did, honestly). I don’t know anyone that works for SS. I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock By your statements you are just a small fry that has no real clue on how the business works. I make over 50k/yearly from selling stock, (Shutter is only a very tiny percentage of that) from stock through the last 11 years. I have a tiny know-how on how to succeed and make a living in this business. What is proposed now is a huge blow to the income to 95% of contributors , small and large. No, the "you will make it up in volume" and "work harder" arguments have been all been said before. What happens is just the contrary. Just learn a little about corporate talk so you can read between the lines.......Don't believe me? Next year June first you compare your sales with last year and let's see how supportive you are then to your past affirmations. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Patricio_Murphy Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, TBT Honest said: I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock Just one question. If you're just a small contributor, how can you guarantee that with effort we will make on million downloads a year? Oh, one post in the forums. No portfolio to show. Promising. Drop us a message when you reach the million downloads we, lazy people, won't reach because we don't put enough effort. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Hanjo Hellmann Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Somehow I need to "thank" Shutterstock. I was quite happy so far with the situation and it was fun seeing earnings increasing overtime. I am just an amateur and don't really do it for the money. I liked being a contributor with this company for the structure they had in place. As a consequence, that made me reluctant and maybe lazy to spread out to other microstock agency. But the new policy now motivates me very much to invest that additional time and get me out of my chair. But unfortunately also to stop contributing images to Shutterstock... 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Martin Erdniss Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Still lots of active ports posting here. The "signal" at June 1st seems to become not as drastic as the first reactions promised to. Most contributors will play along, as planned and foreseen by the decision makers - very disappointing indeed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sybille Reuter Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Baby it ain't June till it's June 3 Link to post Share on other sites
foodonwhite Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Martin Erdniss said: Still lots of active ports posting here. The "signal" at June 1st seems to become not as drastic as the first reactions promised to. Most contributors will play along, as planned and foreseen by the decision makers - very disappointing indeed. It's still May. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Paulo Muacho Goncalves Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I’m out. Bye bye Shutterstock. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Kiki Dohmeier Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Sorry People, but Shutterstock this is not fair and I think Shutterstock will be loose some or more Contributor. I made perfect and rare Footage, just reached nearly 10K$, think Shutterstock made a good income with my Portfolio. So and now you are so ungentle, you will make more Money with my Portfolio and not thinking of the hard work some of the Contributors made for you? Not fair!!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Anita Ponne Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Martin Erdniss said: Still lots of active ports posting here. The "signal" at June 1st seems to become not as drastic as the first reactions promised to. Most contributors will play along, as planned and foreseen by the decision makers - very disappointing indeed. Disabling your portfolio takes time. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
John Neff Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 That guy above defending SS must be smoking a banana leaf! So I am to praise a company who would have nothing if it were not for the artist and then they turn around and throw a cow Patti in my face. Nope they need to actually treat their suppliers with respect! 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 4 hours ago, TBT Honest said: Im good with SS new earnings change, I trust Shutterstock that they had no other choice but to do it, I have zero respect for contributors trashing Shutterstock online, on social media and in this forum and I think everyone that does it should be banned for life from SS. Show some respect for the guys that put in tons of work for you to have a platform to sell your work in times when it’s heading straight to Unlimited free downloads, SS is doing it’s best to provide good sales EVERY SINGLE DAY ! Chill ! The entire world is on its knees with all this Corona Virus and you go around shaming SS ????????? Calling to ban them ???? 10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you’ll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD ! Work Harder ! 90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea. If you’re here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort. What other choice did SS have ? take a deep breath and think about it, look around, read the map and thank god every morning for SS. People started posting financial reports (I read all of them when they come out) stating they have this much and that much, I wish SS will go back to the glory days of higher stock price, they deserve it, its an amazing platform with amazing people putting an amazing amount of hard work for you to be able to do what you love and get paid on time and run it like clock work. SHOW SOME RESPECT ! And for the love of god, the Levels are perfectly balanced, wanna go level 6? Do you want SS to create a level 7 just for you? WORK FOR IT ! I think SS should remove any account that also sell at these “unlimited” sites, that is giving SS a bad name. Long live SHUTTERSTOCK, a fair, welcoming and professional company. Shutterstock is doing the right thing for them and for US. I don’t work for SS (I wish I did, honestly). I don’t know anyone that works for SS. I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one. @Kate Shutterstock On the subject of respect: Yes, it is certainly right that we should all treat each other with respect - among ourselves and also towards shutterstock. This also includes a respectful tone. We certainly also have to show respect to our shareholders, because they have financially supported shutterstock. I think that we contrubutors, the actual capital of the company, also deserve to be treated with respect, because without our images and videos, the company would not exist. To this respect I would count, for example, that we are finally told the truth based on tables and facts and not just talk about percentages. The shareholders do not permanently buy additional shares in order to then hold the same value in their hands as before the purchase. They expect the value of the shares they have bought to increase without having to invest more permanently. Our "shares" are our images or videos. We have invested in them - our time. And we too have a right to expect that this investment will pay off. We too want to see an increase in value. If I were to tell shareholders that their shares are hardly worth anything at the beginning of each year, but that they could only reach their original value in the middle of the year (or whenever), no one would invest in shares anymore. And rightly so! On the subject of work, investment and sales: Yes, it is also certainly true that the people who work for shutterstock are hard-working people who do their best to ensure good sales every single day by providing and maintaining the infrastructure to make this possible. These people do not do it for nothing. They make money doing it. And the money they earn, if all goes well, they have earned it honestly. My opinion is that we contributors are also hard-working and thus also make sure that we generate good sales every single day. I can't imagine that a company will work if the employees who have been with us for 10 years have their salaries cut at the beginning of the year to such an extent that they - maybe - no longer even earn what they had 10 years before. Combined with the argument: If you are hard-working, you will be back to the level of before in a few months - and with a lot of hard work, maybe for 3 months you can earn more than before. A questionable model. I can hardly imagine that you can win new employees in this way. Especially not if you don't tell them in clear figures how much they could earn one day. On the subject of working hard: Yes, it's certainly possible to sell a million images if you work hard. Work harder. The decisive question is not how many pictures you could sell. Nobody cares if the payment is not right. What interests the sellers is how much you can earn with each sale. If I only earn a cent per picture, 1 million downloads are worth nothing. I only have a small portfolio. Maybe because I'm "lazy" - maybe. But I certainly won't be more diligent if I'm - probably - paid less. And I don't know anybody who is willing to work more if they are told they will earn less. If there are other examples here, I am very curious to hear about them. My small portfolio, put together by a lazy person, has brought shutterstock six-figure income - my share of this has already been deducted. Shutterstock sold nearly 190 million images ("6 per second") last year. There are more than "1+ million" contributors. So every contributor sold less than 190 images a year on average. The "RPD is 3.43 US$". That leaves shutterstock at just under 3 US$. At least 15,500 - maybe 20,000 or more - average contributors are needed to finance the salaries of 4 executives. Unfortunately we do not know how many contributors we will need in the future for these 4 salaries, because we are not provided with transparent figures. And now a remark I can't get my head around. I cannot see your portfolio. And I cannot verify that you are one of the hard working people who will earn more money in the future. At the same time I realize that this is your first post ever in the forum. There's an aura of mystery about you. I - personally - wonder if you are a secret weapon of marketing. 16 Link to post Share on other sites
nexus 7 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I deactivated sales completely. The new payment structure is simply not acceptible. I hope shutterstock will reverse this decision. I've been here for 10 years now. It will be sad to leave. Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Productions Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 My experience with dreamstime is that they refuse to close your account, you can delete images but they don't let you remove more than 6 daily or close to 6 I don't remember. The images that are left end up in a so called stockfree site free download without you knowing. Im in a dispute over this still. I don't know how things are going to play out here since leaving is never straightforward. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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