Phil Lowe Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Maxal Tamor said: The second step will probably be a cost reduction for the customers, with a subsequent lack of earnings for us. That was actually the first step: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DaLiu Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, sahua d said: I'm sorry but all of you just don't understand that we all live now in a post-pandemic world. All that we have as granted is gone now. This market will die soon (with or without Shutterstock). Don't be delusional, market will recover, this market will grow again at some point, just be patient. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Oleksii Arseniuk Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, AlphaNature said: No one is required to delete or disable their portfolio. This is a call to protest. Everyone protests as he wishes. And you, drowning out this appeal, are helping to Shutterstock or are complacent with your wit. We do not honor you either. Никто не обязан удалять или отключать свое портфолио. Это призыв к протесту. Каждый протестует как пожелает. А вы заглушая этот призыв помогаете Шатерстоку или самодовольствуетесь своим остроумием. Не то ни другое не делаем вам чести. I wrote not a single word to judge others, so would you kindly address your passive aggression to somewhere else. I've my own dignity and I wrote not a single word about cooling the "protest wave". I do not like these news as much as others don't, but I've my own experience of to conveying the idea and it has nothing in common with close to hysteric appeals. Once again - I ask people not to confront each other in this thread but to unite with the rational arguments 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ammit Jack Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 this is the exact scheme that Amazon pulled with books publishers, it is a question of time until Shutterstock will go down the drain , but not to soon. tech like blockchain is starting to get implemented in microstock. future of the industry do not lies in companies reselling. a big move in the attempt to affect shutterstock is almost impossible. most of the people in this forum are ceative people, we should use that creativity in generating a leverage. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaNature Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, sahua d said: I'm sorry but all of you just don't understand that we all live now in a post-pandemic world. All that we have as granted is gone now. This market will die soon (with or without Shutterstock). I do not see the post-pandemic world here. everything is natural decline from year to year. They just need to work, not steal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GregDPhotos Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, arcticphotoworks said: I was just reading it, and now it`s gone. I should have taken a screenshot, it was written good I managed to get a screenshot; I'd post it but I think it would just be deleted... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GregDPhotos Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Phil Lowe said: Phase 1 complete. I had 1099 clips, now at 0 after opting out of sales. Images go down starting Friday. You might give your photos a month or so... It looks to me like our pay might go up briefly before it sinks. Makes sense to me to take advantage of it (if I'm right). 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Ammit Jack Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, GregDPhotos said: I managed to get a screenshot; I'd post it but I think it would just be deleted... upload it as editorial to Shutterstock 4 Link to post Share on other sites
GregDPhotos Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Just now, Ammit Jack said: upload it as editorial to Shutterstock I suppose it would be rejected for "inappropriate content"... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Level 5 for video clips should start at 500 - 1,000 sales. Number of video sales is much less than photo sales, like 1/10 of photo sales by number. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lowe Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, GregDPhotos said: You might give your photos a month or so... It looks to me like our pay might go up briefly before it sinks. Makes sense to me to take advantage of it (if I'm right). I'm already making $2.70 for an SOD/ODD. Starting June 1, that will go down to $1.23, a 54% pay cut. Unless SS has a way to boost my monthly downloads by 54% to compensate, I see nothing but losses going forward. Not going to give my work away so that SS can earn more while I earn less. Not going to happen. Shutterstock needs contributors more than contributors need Shutterstock. 14 Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 More than 99% of video contributors won't make it to level 5. Therefore, we'll just lose like $500 per year from video sales on our way to get to Level 4. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
trekandshoot Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Shutterstock's new policy is an abusive pay cut on the hard working artists who's dedication and creativity built and sustain their company. I have been a steady contributor for 11 years and am proud of the 8200 shot portfolio I crafted. I have stopped uploading and will reduce my portfolio size in protest. I am seriously considering deactivating all of it. I urge Shutterstock to reverse their damaging mistake. In the long term supporting artists will yield far better returns than starving them. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Can all Shutterstock's management and employees' salary reset to low base level every year on January 1st too? 17 Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lowe Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, MJD Graphics said: While I absolutely don't agree with this new system, I don't think disabling/deleting your account is the way to go. You have spent a lot of time/investment in creating the port, it's there already you don't have to do anything else as it's now passive income. The only thing to consider is uploading anything new feasible, considering shooting time, uploading, keyboarding, etc. True, but for me, it's the principle that matters. I don't want SS enriching itself at my expense. I was willing to tolerate some of the changes they've made in the past, but this crosses the line for me. It wasn't passive income when I invested heavily in cameras, lenses, and accessories to do this kind of work. SS didn't buy that gear. I did. I am not going to let SS gouge me any further, so that they can maintain their cushy presence in the Empire State Building in New York City. They want us to bite the bullett so they don't have to. That doesn't wash at all in my book. This was the last straw for me. No more. 12 Link to post Share on other sites
Gulsen Ozcan Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Phil Lowe said: Shutterstock needs contributors more than contributors need Shutterstock. Agree ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
blvdone Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 My video sales is zero today. Does it have something to do with me leaving negative comment here? Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lowe Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, blvdone said: My video sales is zero today. Does it have something to do with me leaving negative comment here? No. At least it shouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites
Kathy Hutchins Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 @Kate Shutterstock Is there any new thought coming from management today? Rolling average for levels rather than reset to zero on Jan 1 would mean a lot. I'll be at level 5 within two months, but I'll resent those two months of "earning" my way back. I believe I've earned my way to stay there, if not be at level 6,'' 1 Link to post Share on other sites
truhelen Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, MJD Graphics said: Won't make a lot of difference to SS as they would then still have 290 million images in the database. What do these millions of circles and squares mean? Who will buy millions of do-not-turn-up pictograms? Of course, those who have quality content will not want to work for nuts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
truhelen Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, LongJon said: i suggest you delete your folio right now considering your position...maybe if all those people screaming now begin cancelling their folio.....but i bet nobody will do this after june first apart hundred people....i bet i will check most folio will be there even janaury 2021. Perhaps what was will remain. But will new QUALITY images be added? Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaNature Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, blvdone said: My video sales is zero today. Does it have something to do with me leaving negative comment here? The day before yesterday I turned on my videos. Yesterday they became visible on stock. Today, while I was writing here, I have 5 sales and $ 100. But no matter what sales, I am against it. It's not fair. It's not fair. It would be better to lower prices a bit than to take away our income and turn it into theirs. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gtranquillity Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Polozov arts said: Where do you find statistics? I'm curious about that 90% drop.. I'm just looking at my regular statistics and doing the math (i.e. if you usually sell 100 images a day and since the announcement 10 then that's a drop of 90%. If you usually sell 50 images a day and now 5 then this is also a drop of 90% 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SamULvisuals Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 You’re honestly kidding!? Do you even realise how much time, effort and money goes into producing these images and videos for you to completely exploit. Well I will break it down for you: DSLR Camera = $2000 average Lenses = Anywhere from $100 to $3000 each Computer = $2000+ Media Storage = $100+ Props & Misc = Could be anything TOTAL UPFRONT COSTS = ~$7000 Now here’s the biggest cost: Time to edit 1 image = 10-15 minutes, so about 5-10 an hour possibly. So for 100 images about 10 Hours Time to upload = 1hr for about 100 images Time to Keyword & Submit = 2hrs for about 100 images. TOTAL TIME PER 100 images = 13hrs Realistically <10% of total uploads sell, so that’s 13hrs work to sell 10 images at 10cents each. Total = $1.00 for 13 hours work. Not including overheads and equipment. To get my $7000 back for my equipment would take a total of (drum roll please): 70,000 downloads and a total of 91,000hrs work, which is 3791 Full Days, or 541 Full Weeks, or 126 Full months Or 10.38 full years without a second off. Nice work. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
truhelen Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, sahua d said: I'm sorry but all of you just don't understand that we all live now in a post-pandemic world. All that we have as granted is gone now. This market will die soon (with or without Shutterstock). Ну все, бля, осталось натощак застрелиться 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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