Whiteaster Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 16 minutes ago, Wilm Ihlenfeld said: Is there anywhere to see how many downloads you have that count towards the ranking? Wilm, I wanted to ask the same thing. All I see on my profile is how many downloads do I need to the next level. If this is important for you, their support staff was very kind and helpful, once or twice I needed them. Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Thank you for your information, Whiteaster! I haven't even found the information about the downloads needed for the next level. Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteaster Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 24 minutes ago, Wilm Ihlenfeld said: Thank you for your information, Whiteaster! I haven't even found the information about the downloads needed for the next level. You are welcome. To see how many downloads you need to next level, from the main menu click on "Profile" and go to your profile: That is all but it is not very useful. Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteaster Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, okili77 said: https://submit.shutterstock.com/payouts?language=en Wilm was asking about levels at DP not SS. There are some commission changes there too, that is why. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
okili77 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Whiteaster said: Wilm was asking about levels at DP not SS. There are some commission changes there too, that is why. Oh, sorry, thank you for correction Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteaster Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, okili77 said: Oh, sorry, thank you for correction Never mind, it can happen to each of us. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 13 hours ago, ribeiroantonio said: Which kind of adjustments? For better or worse? Thank You I appreciate someone with an ironic sense of humor. Seems everyone else missed the joke. 😁 Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 hours ago, Whiteaster said: You are welcome. To see how many downloads you need to next level, from the main menu click on "Profile" and go to your profile: That is all but it is not very useful. Thanks a lot, Whiteaster! I have never noticed that before. Now I at least know that it's a very long way for me to reach the next level. Concerning royalties I fell down to levels. Now I'd have to have gold ranking to get the same royalties that I had on former bronze level. Great! Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Harper Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 23 image downloads so far in Jan for the princely sum of $2.76. That's dollars and not REAL money like £ sterling.😃 Hopeless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mpessaris Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 obviously this isn't going anywhere. It's like suing one of those huge companies..they have they money to make the trial last last years while you lose everything.. deleting accounts or not uploading as I did hasn't had any effect and now we are earning peanuts. it breaks my heart saying this but I am considering admitting defeat and uploading again...I'm doing the work anyway for the other agencies so.. I hate this...I'm always wondering how these guys sleep at night, but they probably sleep better than me..in their high quality sheets and pillows... and it's like Mick Harper said...I'm earning in dollars and paying in euros...loosing more money it's even worse when you know there is a way to make both client and contributor happy... pfffffffffffffffff 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 294 - Jan 14, 2021 7 hours ago, mpessaris said: obviously this isn't going anywhere. deleting accounts or not uploading as I did hasn't had any effect and now we are earning peanuts. it breaks my heart saying this but I am considering admitting defeat and uploading again...I'm doing the work anyway for the other agencies so.. "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." 👍 I see others like you who are recovering from the shock of the change. The alternative is find something else, not Microstock. The anger, protests and hostility will accomplish nothing. We've seen that futility before when other agencies modified terms, levels or payments. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
mpessaris Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 so you're doing micro stock ..why? is that to get some extra cash at the end of the month? if that's the reason, what cash are you getting? that's my point. no matter why you're doing it, SS just killed everyone's "revenue"...I know you get it if you stop doing micro stock, what else can you do that is similar in terms of activity/pay? Link to post Share on other sites
Saurav022 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, mpessaris said: if you stop doing micro stock, what else can you do that is similar in terms of activity/pay? Even begging is better than microstock, beggars get more than 10 cents plus they do not have to spend money on camera, travel, hiring models, renting studio, expensive software etc. Link to post Share on other sites
mpessaris Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 30 minutes ago, Saurav022 said: Even begging is better than microstock, beggars get more than 10 cents plus they do not have to spend money on camera, travel, hiring models, renting studio, expensive software etc. I am not there yet..but yes..with ss we are beggars in our own homes..ridiculous 2 Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 6 hours ago, mpessaris said: so you're doing micro stock ..why? is that to get some extra cash at the end of the month? if that's the reason, what cash are you getting? that's my point. no matter why you're doing it, SS just killed everyone's "revenue"...I know you get it if you stop doing micro stock, what else can you do that is similar in terms of activity/pay? If you figure out the something else, please share? I used to supply websites and magazines, before Microstock. Websites have stopped paying for the most part and the magazine are out of business. Yes I'm doing this for extra cash, but more about at the end of the year than anything about months. I take these photos, most of them, anyway. I have the equipment and I enjoy what I shoot. That makes it easier for me, than someone who needs or depends on the income. Not everyone does Microstock for the money alone. That's my view. And from watching, it seems that if people loved photography to start with, working for the small payments and the disappointments can ruin the joy and happiness of experiencing making ones own photos as a personal experience. I hope that explains that all of us aren't in this for the same reasons or only for the money. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Crystal Eye Studio Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 14 hours ago, HodagMedia said: If you figure out the something else, please share? I used to supply websites and magazines, before Microstock. Websites have stopped paying for the most part and the magazine are out of business. Yes I'm doing this for extra cash, but more about at the end of the year than anything about months. I take these photos, most of them, anyway. I have the equipment and I enjoy what I shoot. That makes it easier for me, than someone who needs or depends on the income. Not everyone does Microstock for the money alone. That's my view. And from watching, it seems that if people loved photography to start with, working for the small payments and the disappointments can ruin the joy and happiness of experiencing making ones own photos as a personal experience. I hope that explains that all of us aren't in this for the same reasons or only for the money. For many contributors Microstock was their daily income (feeding their families, paying the bills) and for some others it was extra cash..... then came the pandemic. Covid drastically changed the creative landscape, many creative agencies lost their clients as their clients don't need materials for their businesses. Lockdowns were imposed so who needs a brochure for promotional activities. Imagine the travel industry stopped so brochures that need travel images are also not created. So many designers and photographers who were already submitting their works to Microstock eventually lost their agency jobs. So they thought microstock was a savior, work-at-home full time work while Covid spreads its tentacles until May of last year 2020 (The rates changed)...suddenly, the savior was looking for something that could feed them and farming was a viable option, even farming in the backyard just to survive the sudden unemployment and sudden small revenue from microstock could help. Farming maybe the savior these days... Hoping everything will become normal again and well, hopefully, the commission rates will also go back to what it was so it could be fair to the time, creativity, expenses in equipment and effort made by the contributors. Link to post Share on other sites
The Solkotovic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 This is very interesting. I always thought it is set in stone with the percentage rate. I am glad you announced it, for now that means I need to add another thing to my to-do list to be able to earn some cash. Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Doronin Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 There are others who pay more for the same images. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Thijs de Graaf Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Did I miss something? 😵 😵 I looked again at Kate's announcement and saw that there are only likes!!! Dislike is no longer possible on the forum. I hadn't even noticed. I don't watch it that often either. Only at the announcement is it a very striking difference. I added a 'sad'. 😒 An ignorant visitor now thinks when he sees the announcement, that we are very enthusiastic. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, Thijs de Graaf said: Did I miss something? 😵 😵 I looked again at Kate's announcement and saw that there are only likes!!! Dislike is no longer possible on the forum. I hadn't even noticed. I don't watch it that often either. Only at the announcement is it a very striking difference. I added a 'sad'. 😒 An ignorant visitor now thinks when he sees the announcement, that we are very enthusiastic. Oh, Thijs, you're right! It seems that there have been changes. Link to post Share on other sites
paula french Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Not sure about anyone else, but I seem to be having a lot more SOD's - don't get me the wrong the payout is paltry mainly 0.66 as haven't hit level 2 yet - but they are 4 x greater than subs - not a complaint, but strange?? Right as this moment if it carries on I 'might' just make payout!! Link to post Share on other sites
stevemart Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 19 hours ago, Thijs de Graaf said: Did I miss something? 😵 😵 I looked again at Kate's announcement and saw that there are only likes!!! Dislike is no longer possible on the forum. I hadn't even noticed. I don't watch it that often either. Only at the announcement is it a very striking difference. I added a 'sad'. 😒 An ignorant visitor now thinks when he sees the announcement, that we are very enthusiastic. Less ignorant visitors will look down Page #1 to see that the contributors saying that they think that the new rates are S*** have more than 1,000 likes (therefore 'dislikes') to Kate's 13 miserable brownie points. 🙂 BTW when feebay made it almost impossible for a vendor to give a buyer negative feedback, I stopped selling stuff there. Link to post Share on other sites
Thijs de Graaf Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 15 minutes ago, stevemart said: Less ignorant visitors will look down Page #1 to see that the contributors saying that they think that the new rates are S*** have more than 1,000 likes (therefore 'dislikes') to Kate's 13 miserable brownie points. 🙂 Of course. But first it was immediately visible through all those red dislikes. Which would make one think, "What's going on here?" I suspect this was the reason for getting rid of the dislikes. Apparently our admins didn't like that. If everyone adds 'sad', they will also be abolished. 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Vitanov Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 As a former trade unionist and I've seen many companies do the same thing SS did. Writing complains to company's chief staff does nothing in most cases and signals get ignored. That's exactly what we witness right now and it's of no surprise to me. But in 'real life' you can also send a complain to a higher authority that the company violates minimum wage laws. All European countries have minimum wage laws and it's a very common procedure. I'm not familiar how things are in other countries though. Is such thing possible in SS case? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Thijs de Graaf Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 34 minutes ago, Alex Vitanov said: As a former trade unionist and I've seen many companies do the same thing SS did. Writing complains to company's chief staff does nothing in most cases and signals get ignored. That's exactly what we witness right now and it's of no surprise to me. But in 'real life' you can also send a complain to a higher authority that the company violates minimum wage laws. All European countries have minimum wage laws and it's a very common procedure. I'm not familiar how things are in other countries though. Is such thing possible in SS case? Doesn't seem to me. The rights of employees are described in the Netherlands. That was very different during the industrial revolution However, we are not salaried employees and Shutterstock is an international company. We have no rights. We can only switch to another Stocksite. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
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