Tom Tietz Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Very well stated Andreas!! I too have stopped adding new content until and if they reverse this new process. I and many others here do not feel valued anymore and that is sad. Hopefully smarter heads will prevail but if not I don't see a future with this agency. Sadly though I am pretty sure they could care less!!!! We can survive without SS, question is how do they survive without us contributors? Doubtful? Wake up SS!!!!! 6 Link to post Share on other sites
RukiMedia Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I earned 1000 $ less this year, which means SS stole 1000 $ from my pocket. I hope karma exists. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Nannycz Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 hours ago, Tom Tietz said: Very well stated Andreas!! I too have stopped adding new content until and if they reverse this new process. I and many others here do not feel valued anymore and that is sad. Hopefully smarter heads will prevail but if not I don't see a future with this agency. Sadly though I am pretty sure they could care less!!!! We can survive without SS, question is how do they survive without us contributors? Doubtful? Wake up SS!!!!! Unfortunately, I think there is enough ppl willing to upload for peanuts... Hence, they will survive fine without those few who stop contributing, but for many of those, SS is the main microstock income source... 🙁 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 1/2/2021 at 11:44 AM, Nannycz said: Unfortunately, I think there is enough ppl willing to upload for peanuts.. And also for nothing. A local online news outlet uses Unsplash for images where media is contributed for no gain. This is clearly not helping to say the least!!! Only one example🙄 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neo Geometric Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I lost 3/4 of my income. In January 2020, 44 downloads per day are $ 19.19. Now 44 downloads and only $ 5.66. Forget about Kate's new content. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Billy333 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Hello 0.30$ dollar per day :))) I had 300$ per month now I have 2$ and it is 6th January......... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Billy333 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/2/2021 at 11:44 AM, Nannycz said: Unfortunately, I think there is enough ppl willing to upload for peanuts... Hence, they will survive fine without those few who stop contributing, but for many of those, SS is the main microstock income source... 🙁 It WAS the main microstock income source...I had 300$ per month before all this happened, now I have 2$ and it is 6th January......... 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 And posts are being removed again from here🤨 2 Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 14 hours ago, Tony ALS said: And posts are being removed again from here🤨 Really, what did they say? I mean removed for opinion and position or for the words and language used? I'm actually surprised the moderators are as lenient as they are in allowing so many critical accusations and false claims. Next message is 293, just as a counter and kind of bookmark. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Prott Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Wow. Up to now this year a RPD of way below 20 cents. And the main competitor sold more than 2 times as much images for exactly 10x the revenue. Way to go Shutterstock! 6 Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 hours ago, Andreas Prott said: Wow. Up to now this year a RPD of way below 20 cents. And the main competitor sold more than 2 times as much images for exactly 10x the revenue. Way to go Shutterstock! Disappointing isn't that? Talk about killing any interest or motivation. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Neo Geometric Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Such honest opportunities. Переходите на https://creativemarket.com/ 103 sales in total 17 sets 5 Link to post Share on other sites
AKaiser Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/6/2021 at 8:06 PM, Andreas Prott said: Wow. Up to now this year a RPD of way below 20 cents. And the main competitor sold more than 2 times as much images for exactly 10x the revenue. Way to go Shutterstock! This "main competitor" just started selling image bundles through their template section, though. That's the next threat our industry will be facing, IMHO. Single images have already been devalued, more complex products and collections will be next. Sorry to say that, but AS isn't "all good" at all, either. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Quarz Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Unfortunately the new SS system does not give us anything better! happy new year! Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 12 hours ago, AKaiser said: This "main competitor" just started selling image bundles through their template section, though. That's the next threat our industry will be facing, IMHO. Single images have already been devalued, more complex products and collections will be next. Sorry to say that, but AS isn't "all good" at all, either. Did the commission change? What's the template section? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AKaiser Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/8/2021 at 7:32 PM, HodagMedia said: Did the commission change? What's the template section? Templates sell in different formats - such as PSDs and vector templates. AS approved me as a contributor to this category some time ago (You still need to submit those directly to their team.), but I decided that I didn't want to compete against my own products elsewhere and didn't upload anything. A couple of weeks ago I contacted them again asking whether I was still "in" - apparently I wasn't. And currently there's a waiting list for people to apply for being allowed to submit to this category. As for the commissions, I don't have any clue. They didn't even tell me what I was supposed to earn for a template when I was accepted. That was just one reason why I didn't join. A few more cents than for "usual" images, I think, though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 8 hours ago, AKaiser said: Templates sell in different formats - such as PSDs and vector templates. AS approved me as a contributor to this category some time ago (You still need to submit those directly to their team.), but I decided that I didn't want to compete against my own products elsewhere and didn't upload anything. A couple of weeks ago I contacted them again asking whether I was still "in" - apparently I wasn't. And currently there's a waiting list for people to apply for being allowed to submit to this category. As for the commissions, I don't have any clue. They didn't even tell me what I was supposed to earn for a template when I was accepted. That was just one reason why I didn't join. A few more cents than for "usual" images, I think, though. Ah, it was for templates, not video, photo or illustrations. Thanks, I was wondering what was going on. Good news. Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lawrence Bufalino Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 It seems like shutter stock has gone out of its way to screw over serious, professional, and significant contributors. IMO they are shooting themselves in the foot since the only people who would continue to use this platform are amateurs or enthusiasts which I am the latter. Also not reassuring that Shutterstock clearly doesn't care about those who have provided the most value to its business. But oh well I guess, in the end a company will usually fail when they continue to harbor unethical business models. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
DOCTOR BLACK Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It's time to admit that SS has turned from microstock to nanostock 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Mirko Kuzmanovic Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 DP just sent an email announcing ''adjustments'' in contributor royalties, starting January 18... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ribeiroantonio Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 15 hours ago, Mirko Kuzmanovic said: DP just sent an email announcing ''adjustments'' in contributor royalties, starting January 18... Which kind of adjustments? For better or worse? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteaster Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, ribeiroantonio said: Which kind of adjustments? For better or worse? Commission cut, of course, still the lowest commission (based on rank) is $0.25, the same as it was on SS before the paycut. I think this is quite understandable in these hard times (compared to SS's brutal paycut). 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, Whiteaster said: Commission cut, of course, still the lowest commission (based on rank) is $0.25, the same as it was on SS before the paycut. I think this is quite understandable in these hard times (compared to SS's brutal paycut). The number of downloads is relevant for the ranking. There are almost only subscriptions. And for one download you need 3 subscription downloads. I have just under 6000 downloads, most of which are subscriptions. So I will get the ranking bronze. That means a loss of 16 to 25% per download. This is a lot! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteaster Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Wilm Ihlenfeld said: The number of downloads is relevant for the ranking. There are almost only subscriptions. And for one download you need 3 subscription downloads. I have just under 6000 downloads, most of which are subscriptions. So I will get the ranking bronze. That means a loss of 16 to 25% per download. This is a lot! I am not sure what you mean, the ranking system hasn't changed from what I see. You will have the same rank as before but with less money/download, from now on. What am I missing? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, Whiteaster said: I am not sure what you mean, the ranking system hasn't changed from what I see. You will have the same rank as before but with less money/download, from now on. What am I missing? Thanks Whiteaster! You're right - the rule 3 subscriptions are 1 download already existed before - that was not clear to me. So it's true - nothing changes in the ranking. But the losses will still amount to 16% for photos and 11% for vectors. Is there anywhere to see how many downloads you have that count towards the ranking? Link to post Share on other sites
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