Carlos Marcante Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Sirs, the 10 cents of a dollar are insignificant in Argentina and anywhere in the world. With that money you don't even pay for the time to define the TAGS of the photo/video. The business for the photographers is finished in SS, it is the cruel reality. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
etraveler Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 https://www.selling-stock.com/Article/new-stock-photo-marketing-strategy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Elliott Bignell Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 This may be of interest to some of you - the picture-hosting site I threatened to build. You can pull a copy right now and set up your own web page on a hosting site, or you can wait for me to make it a bit more useful. You will even be able to link back to Shutterstock and let them sell the pictures, if you want, but I'm not that far along with development. https://elliott-bignell.medium.com/the-gradual-rise-of-homepix-917b992376b8 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jjmillan Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 las acciones siguen subiendo Link to post Share on other sites
dummyphotographer Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Is anyone going to deactivate his account? Link to post Share on other sites
Ints Vikmanis Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I do not see point to sell here anymore. So yes I have dissabled my sales here. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Prott Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 11:46 AM, dummyphotographer said: Is anyone going to deactivate his account? I thought about it for end of the year because of the resetting to 15%. But tonight I had my biggest single earning with 87,24 for a SOD. Since I am on level 4 this brings me into the plus for this month comparing old against new earnings scheme. I stopped uploading May 26th and still will have a BME this month due to this sale. So it seems like I will not deactivate but still not upload any additional assets. My earnings on other agencies are now continuously outperforming SS by far (even in this good SS month). And BTW: this is just a lottery - if I would have sold this same image in January I would have lost 43,62 USD on this sale alone 😞 with the costumer having paid the exact same amount. Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Prott Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I thought on level 4 we ought to earn more than the old 2.48 USD (old level 2) when selling ODDs. But my last three ODDs were 2.11, 2.47 and 2.20. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Dafinchi Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 67 sales in one day, I should be glad... 😛 2 Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Dafinchi said: 67 sales in one day, I should be glad... 😛 Well for the negative, all subs, that's pretty sad. On the positive, you won't be sitting at level one very long in January? 👍 Nice rocks and minerals collection, good examples and nicely presented. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron of L.A. Photography Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I get 200 - 300 downloads a month. Link to post Share on other sites
stevemart Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Normal month for me is 160-170dls but this month will be around 200....fair, for a port of 900......considering almost nothing new uploaded for 2 years. That's when I started to see the trend of little or no reward for effort and decided to cancel effort. Now I get $80-$100/month for absolutely no effort so I'm not complaining....let it wither on the vine! Senior management will be off to fresh fields and even greater rewards in a couple of years proclaiming how fantastic they are as managers.....just look a the stock price. And so it goes....... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
jjmillan Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Shutterstock NYSE: SSTK 68,60 Alguien sigue ganando Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 14 hours ago, stevemart said: Normal month for me is 160-170dls but this month will be around 200....fair, for a port of 900......considering almost nothing new uploaded for 2 years. That's when I started to see the trend of little or no reward for effort and decided to cancel effort. Now I get $80-$100/month for absolutely no effort so I'm not complaining....let it wither on the vine! Senior management will be off to fresh fields and even greater rewards in a couple of years proclaiming how fantastic they are as managers.....just look a the stock price. And so it goes....... True, this is all about making profits and Stan getting his bonus shares as a financial reward. But like you pointed out, this is the way CEOs and corporate Execs. work now. They slice and dice, make money, get hired by some other company to work their magic. Sometimes leaving a withered dying carcass, sometimes a healthier, slimmer structure. But no matter what, this isn't about us, it's about THEM. SSTK was $37 a share in June and is $67 closing on Friday. That's on our backs, from the commission cuts. On the other hand, those who seem to think SS is dying are just thinking from a narrow emotionally based opinion. The stock is up, the investors are confident, and depending on the 4th quarter results, we'll see what's really happening? From what I've read over the years, the SSTK stock is mostly held in large numbers by insiders. That means SS Execs, investment firms and for example 20% is mutual funds, 43% holding companies. I don't know what Jon owns anymore but in June he owned 45%. (for those not math wizards like me, that's 108%) Some people follow this closer than I do know the specifics, but Jon sold many shares in the Summer after he stepped down. If you looked at SS executives, they own large blocks. That's the way things work. Link to post Share on other sites
stevemart Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 When the free float is so small, outside investors are at the mercy of the insiders which may not be a problem if everyone is agreed the price needs to go up!! Ka...ching, Ka....ching! Have to wonder though whether the current management philosophy won't leave a withered dying carcass in a few years time. Link to post Share on other sites
HodagMedia Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 10:52 AM, stevemart said: When the free float is so small, outside investors are at the mercy of the insiders which may not be a problem if everyone is agreed the price needs to go up!! Ka...ching, Ka....ching! Have to wonder though whether the current management philosophy won't leave a withered dying carcass in a few years time. I'm not worried, it's not my job to care or be worried. Just like real work, where I don't come up and say "I have an idea, how you should do this." Because management is supposed to be the brains and I'm just the hired help. (plus they usually already thought of that, or have reason already why "we can't do that", or they don't really want to hear new ideas) I'm not getting paid to worry, not getting stock for photo achievements, not anything, except what I earn on my own. 👍 If I was getting paid to care or think, yes, then I would worry about the direction things are headed. At least SS isn't being traded by private equity investment firms, like happened to Getty, which was so far in debt that they weren't making enough to pay the interest on their debt. That might have changed by now, after being through the financial ringer. But they went from creation in 1997 to stock, to private, to being partners with H&F, 2008 sold to them for 2.4 billion, 2012 sold to Carlisle for 3.3 billion, and I might be missing some of the shared details, like the Getty share during the H&F times. Getty bought back Getty in 2018, and is trying to bring the near dead company, back to life. How to take something good, built solid, with good ideas and solid foundation and turn it into a cesspool. The investment people made money. If we see SS going into the spin cycle, we'll first recognize that when a private equity firm or some investment company, buys ShutterStock. Then start being afraid. 😲 My biggest thing to watch for right now is when will this thread reach 291 pages? 😉 Thanks @Tony ALS corrected the typo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Or 291 pages🙄 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stevemart Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I'm not worried either! I only wondered! What me worry......Alfred E Neuman 3 Link to post Share on other sites
dummyphotographer Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 1:10 PM, Andreas Prott said: I thought about it for end of the year because of the resetting to 15%. But tonight I had my biggest single earning with 87,24 for a SOD. Since I am on level 4 this brings me into the plus for this month comparing old against new earnings scheme. I stopped uploading May 26th and still will have a BME this month due to this sale. So it seems like I will not deactivate but still not upload any additional assets. My earnings on other agencies are now continuously outperforming SS by far (even in this good SS month). And BTW: this is just a lottery - if I would have sold this same image in January I would have lost 43,62 USD on this sale alone 😞 with the costumer having paid the exact same amount. Thanks for your reply What other agencies do you work with? Link to post Share on other sites
dummyphotographer Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 11/14/2020 at 7:26 PM, Andreas Prott said: Yesterday I made on AS the same amount I made in the whole month up to and including yesterday on SS. And I had no enhanced or otherwise special download - just a good day. So SS is making itself disposable for me. But I have to admit that I uploaded a lot of new stuff to AS which I will not upload to SS cause I won’t sell new stuff for 0,10. Dreamstime is completely not worth it and I have stopped uploading. I make around 1% of my AS revenue. What is AS? Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, dummyphotographer said: What is AS? Adobe Stock 3 Link to post Share on other sites
stevemart Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Yep. It happens (very) occasionally. Yesterday made 4X as much on AS in one sale as I have here in total from Dec 1st. Doesn't happen often but when it does.....yippee! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jjmillan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 LAS ACCIONES SIGUEN SUBIENDO 73,19 USD +1,17 (1,62 %) ALGUIEN GANA NO LOS FOTOGRAFOS Link to post Share on other sites
Johnwoodkim Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The robbers know how to share fairly! I got $17.25 as by 15%...how much you got!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 10:34 PM, HodagMedia said: I'm not worried, it's not my job to care or be worried. Just like real work, where I don't come up and say "I have an idea, how you should do this." Because management is supposed to be the brains and I'm just the hired help. (plus they usually already thought of that, or have reason already why "we can't do that", or they don't really want to hear new ideas) I'm not getting paid to worry, not getting stock for photo achievements, not anything, except what I earn on my own. 👍 If I was getting paid to care or think, yes, then I would worry about the direction things are headed. At least SS isn't being traded by private equity investment firms, like happened to Getty, which was so far in debt that they weren't making enough to pay the interest on their debt. That might have changed by now, after being through the financial ringer. But they went from creation in 1997 to stock, to private, to being partners with H&F, 2008 sold to them for 2.4 billion, 2012 sold to Carlisle for 3.3 billion, and I might be missing some of the shared details, like the Getty share during the H&F times. Getty bought back Getty in 2018, and is trying to bring the near dead company, back to life. How to take something good, built solid, with good ideas and solid foundation and turn it into a cesspool. The investment people made money. If we see SS going into the spin cycle, we'll first recognize that when a private equity firm or some investment company, buys ShutterStock. Then start being afraid. 😲 My biggest thing to watch for right now is when will this thread reach 291 pages? 😉 Thanks @Tony ALS corrected the typo. Never going to get to 291 pages it seems! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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