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In an email that is going out today, we are announcing that we will be updating the earnings structure that determines how much you get paid when customers license your work. We are making this adjust

This is just a joke. 10 years with SS and now I'll be getting 20% commission on my footage clips??? No lifetime sales tier, just what you sold last year/this year.... To get to the curr

This space will be updated to address frequently asked questions.  My email shows different counts for videos than are shown above. Which is correct? Apologies. The email to video contributo

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15 minutes ago, R. de Bruijn_Photography said:

See my monthly earnings. They used to be always more than hundred dollars a month. From June they are always under a hundred dollars. And on level 4! In January I will start again from level 1. Shutterstock: give me an honest answer about this. But Shutterstock never replies.... silence. So rude!

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Wow and numbers are dropping, noticed the same thing, more sales but hard to reach a payout.

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14 hours ago, RukiMedia said:

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The same here. This is what they stole from us...

If you don't rely on shutterstock for your living (as unfortunately some do) and which would be impossible if you are in Austria based on your monthly income above, why don't you vote with your feet and walk away? There are other stock sites or you could create your own website to sell direct, which I know isn't simple but possible. I don't get why talented people feed the greed of those at the top here where you have a choice. I don't know your circumstances RukiMedia and this post is not intended as criticism of you, it's just a general observation of so many contributors sticking around here for no apparent good reason. I have had my final payout and I'm just waiting for everything to be closed down for me here. My images are now elsewhere and I guess more will follow when everyone drops to Level 1 at the start of next year. The only way that other stock agencies will be dissuaded to follow shutterstocks awful business practice is to leave them without anything to sell. Much noise in the middle of the year when the change was made but still the number of images here does nothing to stop other agencies following suit. The end of paid stock imagery may well be around the corner unfortunately.

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On 10/22/2020 at 11:29 PM, dummyphotographer said:

I already used to find difficulty reaching my Minimum payout which is 35$. Now, after the new structure it might take more than 6 month to reach the number!! 
Last month I got 33 downloads for $4.44 !!! 
This is really time wasting. 

it takes 360 images to reach minimun payout, Used to be 144 downloads for a payout so the level of frustration is very high, Im just waiting for my payout to close out.

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55 minutes ago, Cappelletti_pictures said:

it takes 360 images to reach minimun payout, Used to be 144 downloads for a payout so the level of frustration is very high, Im just waiting for my payout to close out.

Assuming the worst, 350 downloads at .10 and the old top would have been 92 at the top .38 level, worst possible, all subs. But the answer is not the worst, but what's your average RPD now vs before. We're all different.

2019 RPD was .64 and in 2020 it was .56 (2018 .68 by the way)

So for me 62 DLs in the down market, time of pandemic vs 54 DLs before that. Those are real numbers. Not only that, I'm still set at $100 not $35. 🙂 I like the nice round number.

It's highly unlikely that anyone will ever have to wait for 350 downloads to get their $35, more like 60-70 for mine, and I'm no big earning pro.

What's your real RPD for your 816 photos? You have some nice model photos in there.

 

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19 hours ago, RukiMedia said:

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The same here. This is what they stole from us...

I see a certain contradiction there.You can't complain - from my personal point of view - that the royalties for the providers are much too low and at the same time you get a significant percentage of your revenue from the referral program.
I find that anachronistic.

At the same time - regardless of my statement above - I am surprised that your referral earnings have decreased as much as your earnings for image sales. Did they also reduce the referral fees? Or is it the case that you get less for referrals because the contributors get less as well?

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8 hours ago, HodagMedia said:

Assuming the worst, 350 downloads at .10 and the old top would have been 92 at the top .38 level, worst possible, all subs. But the answer is not the worst, but what's your average RPD now vs before. We're all different.

2019 RPD was .64 and in 2020 it was .56 (2018 .68 by the way)

So for me 62 DLs in the down market, time of pandemic vs 54 DLs before that. Those are real numbers. Not only that, I'm still set at $100 not $35. 🙂 I like the nice round number.

It's highly unlikely that anyone will ever have to wait for 350 downloads to get their $35, more like 60-70 for mine, and I'm no big earning pro.

What's your real RPD for your 816 photos? You have some nice model photos in there.

 

Thanks! I wished those images sold haha!

I get like around twenty something downloads monthly, last year say a typical month like july I got 31 downloads totalling $12.64, this year I got 28 downloads in july totalling $6.01, so in a typical month thats half I'm getting. So well I know I'm not a hit here, my batting average is .21 cts compared to last year wich was around .41 cts.

I hope thats what you're referring to. 

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The penny is beginning to drop for me. Stock photography is just a hobby for me and I enjoy doing it without claiming to be a great photographer by any means. The attached image has been downloaded from shutterstock a total of 80 times in the last few years. Total earnings $31.31. A similar image has earned $15. For me its a bit of fun but even I am beginning to get cheesed off at this pathetic payment scale. Am I going to stop uploading or delete this image? I honestly don't know.

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54 minutes ago, Mick Harper said:

The penny is beginning to drop for me. Stock photography is just a hobby for me and I enjoy doing it without claiming to be a great photographer by any means. The attached image has been downloaded from shutterstock a total of 80 times in the last few years. Total earnings $31.31. A similar image has earned $15. For me its a bit of fun but even I am beginning to get cheesed off at this pathetic payment scale. Am I going to stop uploading or delete this image? I honestly don't know.

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Nice image! I think it tells the story of SS new payments policy as of way to motivate the contributors and the future of the micro stock industry ;)

I also had difficulty to choose what action to take when faced with greedy and unilateral payments policy change by SS.  

I turned my small portfolio off for the most of the summer. In September I reactived it, but deleted permanently around 20% of the "best" content. After that I have immediately deleted any file that had been sold for 0.10c or 0.11c - bang, out, gone. Trust me, it feels good to delete a file right after it has been sold for ten cents. Without uploading new content I am on my way out, slowly but surely. 

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14 hours ago, Cappelletti_pictures said:

Thanks! I wished those images sold haha!

I get like around twenty something downloads monthly, last year say a typical month like july I got 31 downloads totalling $12.64, this year I got 28 downloads in july totalling $6.01, so in a typical month thats half I'm getting. So well I know I'm not a hit here, my batting average is .21 cts compared to last year wich was around .41 cts.

I hope thats what you're referring to. 

Yes, we all have variables like that, not only how much but how many. Mostly I was just commenting on math theory that your worst case, would be 350 dime downloads. 😲 But reality is, we get something better than that. And at the same time, you are correct, we get less downloads now and less money for each.

I haven't really found many people who are saying, hey this new plan is great... I'm making more. From the limited available data, though, more people are making less. But I also need to adjust that, to be fair, because the image market is down for the entire world, because of the virus. I can't simply say, the new commission structure is the cause of everything bad and the downturn in earnings.

Also for myself, I have many less new images, because I couldn't get out and work this Summer, limited access. If new matters, then that's also going to hurt us. I sure hope that this doesn't stay in the downward trend for much longer.

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3 hours ago, HodagMedia said:

Yes, we all have variables like that, not only how much but how many. Mostly I was just commenting on math theory that your worst case, would be 350 dime downloads. 😲 But reality is, we get something better than that. And at the same time, you are correct, we get less downloads now and less money for each.

I haven't really found many people who are saying, hey this new plan is great... I'm making more. From the limited available data, though, more people are making less. But I also need to adjust that, to be fair, because the image market is down for the entire world, because of the virus. I can't simply say, the new commission structure is the cause of everything bad and the downturn in earnings.

Also for myself, I have many less new images, because I couldn't get out and work this Summer, limited access. If new matters, then that's also going to hurt us. I sure hope that this doesn't stay in the downward trend for much longer.

Hi yeah true I wish I could get out and shoot like I used to... Anyways my math says that compared to last year my sales are pretty much the same, it varies a little but it shows that I have to sale twice as much to reach what I was making before the new structure. Curiously my sales at Adobe are getting better, slowly growing my port but before the pandemic I never sold a single photo at adobe and suddenly one day it just started happening, though the images that sell well here dont sell well or at all in adobe.

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The new earning structure is a slap in the face of every artist on SS!

I wish I knew how to opt out of subscription sales since 0.10 does not cover the effort spent on a picture at all. Everything becomes more expensive (e.g. introduction of parking fees in cities in case you want to take a shot of a monument etc.), just services are not paid anymore.

@Kate Shutterstock: Can I tick a box in my profile to exclude subscription sales to avoid underselling of my works?

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20 hours ago, Cappelletti_pictures said:

Hi yeah true I wish I could get out and shoot like I used to... Anyways my math says that compared to last year my sales are pretty much the same, it varies a little but it shows that I have to sale twice as much to reach what I was making before the new structure. Curiously my sales at Adobe are getting better, slowly growing my port but before the pandemic I never sold a single photo at adobe and suddenly one day it just started happening, though the images that sell well here dont sell well or at all in adobe.

Actually (this is going to make some people unhappy and open me to attack, but it's just math) Before the change we were getting paid more than the buyer paid, with some subscription packs, most of the downloads for the 750 packs. Some instances we were getting 60-80% of what someone paid for the download. With the pricing for the large subscriptions on SS, they were losing money in order to pay our commissions.

I have to be honest, yes I like the money for myself, but if I was running a company, and had to answer to the owners/AKA shareholders, I'd hate to report how our income was down, because we were pay contributors more than we sold images for? I think someone else said this before, but I'm picking it up. This isn't a charity. 😃

Back to us, I'd have to check if my numbers of downloads are the same, but I can see without much effort, my income is lower on SS, and like you my sales and income on AS is actually going up slightly. Partly because of new vector illustrations I've been uploading, that SS doesn't accept. That's OK, because Adobe doesn't take my editorial news and SS does!

Every other agency, new or old, active or nothing new, dismal sales and lower earnings. This lower earnings trend isn't new. It's been going on for a number of years now. Just that the recent changes and drops make everything more noticeable.

 

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2 hours ago, HodagMedia said:

Actually (this is going to make some people unhappy and open me to attack, but it's just math) Before the change we were getting paid more than the buyer paid, with some subscription packs, most of the downloads for the 750 packs. Some instances we were getting 60-80% of what someone paid for the download. With the pricing for the large subscriptions on SS, they were losing money in order to pay our commissions.

 

 

If what you say is true then it proves a point. Shutterstock is on a race to the bottom and taking it's contributors with them. Shutterstock subscription packages are priced too low. Simples...

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