Posted August 12 29 minutes ago, paula french said: If we are getting 0.10 now - surely it can't go lower than that in January - can it???? The minimum under the new terms is $0.10. So no, it won't be lower unless the terms are changed again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 Desde mi experiencia la única forma de luchar contra este sistema capìtalista que sólo busca obtener beneficios a costa de la pobreza de los trabajadores (nosotros) sería formar una comunidad, una cooperativa en donde todos los fotógrafos pusiéramos nuestras fotos en exclusiva, y que los clientes sólo pudieran encontrar las fotos, vectores, vídeos, etc, en nuestra cooperativa, que nosotros marquemos los precios y que fuera dirigida por nosotros. Socializar nuestra producción en exclusiva. Todo lo demás son parches que se romperán tarde o temprano. Miseria para todos. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 On 8/12/2020 at 10:26 AM, Munimara said: Desde mi experiencia la única forma de luchar contra este sistema capìtalista que sólo busca obtener beneficios a costa de la pobreza de los trabajadores (nosotros) sería formar una comunidad, una cooperativa en donde todos los fotógrafos pusiéramos nuestras fotos en exclusiva, y que los clientes sólo pudieran encontrar las fotos, vectores, vídeos, etc, en nuestra cooperativa, que nosotros marquemos los precios y que fuera dirigida por nosotros. Socializar nuestra producción en exclusiva. Todo lo demás son parches que se romperán tarde o temprano. Miseria para todos. above translated by google From my experience, the only way to fight against this capitalist system that only seeks to obtain benefits at the expense of the poverty of the workers (us) would be to form a community, a cooperative where all the photographers put our photos exclusively, and that the clients They could only find the photos, vectors, videos, etc., in our cooperative, that we mark the prices and that was directed by us. Socialize our production exclusively. Everything else is patches that will break off sooner or later. Misery for all. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 can someone please answer? I moved to level 2 but still 10 cents? If 15% earnings is 10 cents, what is 20% earnings? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 so have I but it doesn't work like that unfortunately...check out other forum posts on this to get more info... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 43 минуты назад 3sstudio сказал: Математика SS - 15% = 10c, 20% = 10c, 35% = 10c It's like multiplying by zero кто-нибудь может ответить? Я перешел на уровень 2, но все еще 10 центов? Если 15% заработка составляет 10 центов, что такое 20% заработка ? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 1 hour ago, 3sstudio said: can someone please answer? I moved to level 2 but still 10 cents? If 15% earnings is 10 cents, what is 20% earnings? 20% earnings is 10 cents. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 Did anyone ask to have their account deleted? How did it go? I have ask, but did not receive any response so far. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 2 hours ago, 3sstudio said: can someone please answer? I moved to level 2 but still 10 cents? If 15% earnings is 10 cents, what is 20% earnings? Yes. I'm level 6 and most of the sales are $0.10 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 I closed my video footage sales license about 3 days ago and haven't heard a word. I don't expect to either. Pond 5 paid me $10.00 for a video sale on the same day Shutterstock paid me .26 cents for the same video footage. They are putting all of us to a slow death. Anybody out there working with Adobe Stock? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 11 minutes ago, Centrill Media said: I closed my video footage sales license about 3 days ago and haven't heard a word. I don't expect to either. Pond 5 paid me $10.00 for a video sale on the same day Shutterstock paid me .26 cents for the same video footage. They are putting all of us to a slow death. Anybody out there working with Adobe Stock? Lol, that is so sad. I'm working now on getting my account deleted, but Shutterstock does not really response. Only worthless standard-answers... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 8 hours ago, paula french said: If we are getting 0.10 now - surely it can't go lower than that in January - can it???? The minimum will be the same, but the max payout will be much lower. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 7 hours ago, Tony Dunn said: translated by google From my experience, the only way to fight against this capitalist system that only seeks to obtain benefits at the expense of the poverty of the workers (us) would be to form a community, a cooperative where all the photographers put our photos exclusively, and that the clients They could only find the photos, vectors, videos, etc., in our cooperative, that we mark the prices and that was directed by us. Socialize our production exclusively. Everything else is patches that will break off sooner or later. Misery for all. To clarify, SS's system is almost identical to a communist system, not capitalism. I recommend reading the Communist Manifesto and Wealth of Nations to better understand the definitions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 7 hours ago, Tony Dunn said: translated by google From my experience, the only way to fight against this capitalist system that only seeks to obtain benefits at the expense of the poverty of the workers (us) would be to form a community, a cooperative where all the photographers put our photos exclusively, and that the clients They could only find the photos, vectors, videos, etc., in our cooperative, that we mark the prices and that was directed by us. Socialize our production exclusively. Everything else is patches that will break off sooner or later. Misery for all. Check out the Stock Coalition on FB.....this was organized in June and making progress. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 11 minutes ago, GregDPhotos said: Para aclarar, el sistema de las SS es casi idéntico a un sistema comunista, no al capitalismo. Recomiendo leer el Manifiesto Comunista y La riqueza de las naciones para comprender mejor las definiciones. Como alguien que estudió sociología y políticas creo que tu comparación de SS con el Comunismo es muy singular, apuesto que si a SS le dices que son Comunistas se parten de risa. De todos modos aquí no estamos para polemizar con cuestiones vanas. He montado comunas y cooperativas y sé lo que digo, afirmo que es el mejor sistema para que los fotógrafos (o cualquier trabajador por cuenta ajena) podamos ser dueños del sistema de producción y no depender de las astucias "Comunistas" de los CEO de turno. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 I choose not to participate in FB for a wide variety of privacy concerns. Do you have some sort of link to read about this coalition? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12 16 minutes ago, Centrill Media said: I choose not to participate in FB for a wide variety of privacy concerns. Do you have some sort of link to read about this coalition? https://stockcoalition.org 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13 If anyone is thinking sanely, there are two simple steps: stop uploading new content and regularly remove images and videos from your portfolio. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13 I've been getting Enhanced downloads for 3,65$ on level 5. Ridiculous. 😑 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13 You could have earned so much more, Shutterstock actually wrote to me today, again noticing that I haven’t uploaded anything since this pricing structure change was forced on all contributors. Yes, I could have and earned Shutterstock and myself more money. So could all the other contributors, who have stopped uploading out of protest or even gone so far as to deactivate or even delete their accounts. How about you take your contributors seriously and pay a fair share of royalties, Shutterstock? Then you’ll get loads of good quality & fresh content and all of us can earn more together. It should be a partnership between artist and agency with the shared interest of generating income together. This is an open market, we aren’t slaves and we can chose where to sell or not to sell our photos, illustrations and videos. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13 Very well put Christina. I have deactivated all of my video files here and have joined: https://stockcoalition.org 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13 59 minutes ago, Centrill Media said: Very well put Christina. I have deactivated all of my video files here and have joined: https://stockcoalition.org Great way! I don't want to give Shutterstock not even one sale for 10, 12, or 14 cents. It is a disgrace. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Christina Hemsley said: You could have earned so much more, Shutterstock actually wrote to me today, again noticing that I haven’t uploaded anything since this pricing structure change was forced on all contributors. Yes, I could have and earned Shutterstock and myself more money. So could all the other contributors, who have stopped uploading out of protest or even gone so far as to deactivate or even delete their accounts. How about you take your contributors seriously and pay a fair share of royalties, Shutterstock? Then you’ll get loads of good quality & fresh content and all of us can earn more together. It should be a partnership between artist and agency with the shared interest of generating income together. This is an open market, we aren’t slaves and we can chose where to sell or not to sell our photos, illustrations and videos. Hmmm, that's interesting, Christina. It would also be interesting to know how many other providers have also received this message. I haven't received anything like this. However, I'm one of the low uploaders, so shutterstock probably doesn't think I'm interesting. Anyways: every line you write is absolutely correct. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13 Wilm & Christina, For your info. I also got this e-mail. This is actually the second request to download more images. Like a lot of us, I quit downloading after the new pricing structure. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
