Tony ALS Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Milo J said: You deleted those pictures that were selling, and now they don't sell anymore? Amazing coincidence. Don't think you're following the plot🤨. The time spent getting images onto shutterstock makes deleting the lot an annoying prospect so by deleting them gradually and having them available on other sites means at least I get something for my time but once sold they are no longer available here. By the end of this year what's left will all be deleted. Only uploading new content onto other sites and so far over 2,000 images with 1,600 not on shutterstock since March 2020. Hope you are successful with whatever you are doing Milo J but more importantly staying healthy. Best of luck. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Milo J Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion that customers will go hunt around for certain images on other agencies. There's too much out there in pretty much every category. Also, different images sell well at different agencies. If you delete a pic that was selling well over here, that doesn't necessarily mean it will become a bestseller somewhere else. I understand the frustration, and loss of motivation to upload new content here. But killing an existing port - I'm just not sure that will result in higher sales of those images elsewhere. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Milo J said: Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion that customers will go hunt around for certain images on other agencies. There's too much out there in pretty much every category. Also, different images sell well at different agencies. If you delete a pic that was selling well over here, that doesn't necessarily mean it will become a bestseller somewhere else. I understand the frustration, and loss of motivation to upload new content here. But killing an existing port - I'm just not sure that will result in higher sales of those images elsewhere. As this isn't my living if they don't sell elsewhere it's not going to make any difference to me and at $0.10 per sale it might as well be nothing. It must be devastating to those who do live from stock and I would like to see Shutterstock wither and die and everybody to move elsewhere if it's possible for them to do so. AS seems to be working for some although the editorial barrier is a problem. I am new to all of this but having run my own business for 30 years it is appalling to change terms in the way it was done for contributors with almost no notice. i wouldn't attempt something similar with my clients, they would all run away! The timing given this health crises is of course making the whole situation even worse. At the end of this year switching off portfolios here might make SS sit up and take notice if enough do it. Even if there is a positive change for contributors the trust has been lost. Sad. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
mpessaris Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 so after 2 months..i ve got more or less the same number of downloads, around 120, mostly subs obviously..so the math is easily done...without enhanced or on demand sales i'm screwed and august won't sell much... and sadly expecting them to change things is just stupid...changing things would mean they would have to apologise somehow and we all know that's not gonna happen pfff 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, mpessaris said: so after 2 months..i ve got more or less the same number of downloads, around 120, mostly subs obviously..so the math is easily done...without enhanced or on demand sales i'm screwed and august won't sell much... and sadly expecting them to change things is just stupid...changing things would mean they would have to apologise somehow and we all know that's not gonna happen pfff I don't expect anything to improve either. New contributors might believe $0.10 is normal. As has been said here before, a race to the bottom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gray Photo Online Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 New approach after watching SS sales being overtaken by previously 3rd tier stock sites. When I sell an image on one of the other stock agencies, I delete it from SS. It seems to be effective. My sales elsewhere have picked up, so I'm making up the difference and not letting a good shot go for 10 cents. My sales are actually up for year to date and that's with having shut off the portfolio on SS for the entire month of July. SS isn't the only horse in the barn, it's just the lamest. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr Krzeslak Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 SS this days. I feel like they stealing from me. Enchanced for 3$. Total joke! SS is only stock on market i despise with all my heart. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
botiordog Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Piotr Krzeslak said: SS this days. I feel like they stealing from me. Enchanced for 3$. Total joke! SS is only stock on market i despise with all my heart. thats why I suspended my portfolio and this is what everyone should do 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Perl Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 This is actually quite funny. Instead of telling my friends I can make 25 cents when one of my photos sells on Shutterstock, I can now get about 150% more laughs by explaining that I can now make 10 cents for each sale instead. Cool. Link to post Share on other sites
jjmillan Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 yo borro mi cartera Link to post Share on other sites
Pure Sight lab Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 They turned on my portfolio without my permission! Guys CHECK YOUR ACCOUNTS you have to repeat turning off each 30 days now! Scam 4 Link to post Share on other sites
N_A_Z Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 12:01 AM, Yana Lesnik said: https://www.insideimaging.com.au/2020/shutterstocks-reverse-robin-hood-sees-share-price-soar/#comment-628051 "Reverse Robin Hood" 🙃 indeed so. are we loosing the battle here? they predicted it thouroughly how to get more money FROM US. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
N_A_Z Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Pure Sight lab said: They turned on my portfolio without my permission! Guys CHECK YOUR ACCOUNTS you have to repeat turning off each 30 days now! Scam the increase of revenue is that they take the money FROM US. not from the buyer.. AND THEY can not attract MORE Buyer. and if we choose to get out they will loose that increase money source.. however, many of NEW uploaded image are still on the go.. and they have thousands of new image each day... they knew that many of cotributor will eventually pause the account like you did there. also they knew if some will got out. however many will stay and many will enter as new. and the less contributor, they will focus on that. meaning less maintenence.. equals more money.. for them.. its not a matter of the buyer will have millions of image to choose from. its a matter of giving them the image. suitable or not. imagine how in the world the buyer choose all thousand of image with the same keywords. also with almost the same object and theme. with short given time. so, less image will mean the buyer will have less option and buy the image they see it as quite the fit in that given time. if buyer want more greater image, this means the buyer is very perfectionist, of professionally paid to, the can buy them from photographer or other at more expensive site.. they know this. by entering SS the will get that low to medicore product. even many are very good but searching it takes too long. so if our image or video is as good as we say, we can close our account sell them on other microstock company. this way other microstock will bloom because not have other competition of the same image with cheaper price. but if the image is not as good, and we know it, when we just walk around the city and take pictures and upload almost all of them in SS. or when we do logo designs competition and loose, and upload the losing designs here. then almost free is the choise to stay. for the record, many of FREE image with ALL you can do with that image stock website are also in the bloom. so how we can compete in this swirls of tornado of microstock? we create unique quality image and video and sells them elsewhere. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
hjochen Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 hi, i have stopped licensing my videos and pictures and i think they want us back very soon and they will change the earning structures very soon, i see some signs.............. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jjmillan Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 La señal es que con la nueva estructura ha ganado 22 millones de dolares. Link to post Share on other sites
GregDPhotos Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Interesting experience for me. I disabled my portfolio at the end of May - so SS never got to pay me the lucrative 10¢. In June, my sales elsewhere was stable. In July... my sales elsewhere dropped like a rock. Interesting that this would happen as I significantly increased all portfolios (other than SS) in June and July. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Evgeny Drablenkov Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 12:57 AM, Milo J said: Under a 10-clip pack, the contributor would get between $9.90 and $19.80 per clip sold, depending on their level. I have 0,26 $ and 0,34 $ for the one video clip on 2nd Level. And this is insane! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ints Vikmanis Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 It's insane to sell your hard work for such low money! Just disable sales here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
oguzhan guler Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Increasing Shuttterstock visual subscription prices and decreasing Shuttterstock participant prices. What inconsistency 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Milo J Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Evgeny Drablenkov said: I have 0,26 $ and 0,34 $ for the one video clip on 2nd Level. And this is insane! Yes, those are extremely insulting. It's some sort of integration with the Projector platform and Microsoft ads. Hopefully those are streaming licenses only. The good news is that they appear to be on top of the regular sales. Some folks have reported getting 40 of these in a single day. There were threads about these, can't find them anymore now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Elena Umyskova Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 8 hours ago, GregDPhotos said: Interesting experience for me. I disabled my portfolio at the end of May - so SS never got to pay me the lucrative 10¢. In June, my sales elsewhere was stable. In July... my sales elsewhere dropped like a rock. Interesting that this would happen as I significantly increased all portfolios (other than SS) in June and July. The same story. Looks like stock owners collusion. So cost reduction started on SS, was planned on other stocks also. People, who has disabled sales, hang on there. It's important. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
John Wollwerth Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I sent a message to support asking them to close my account permanently, since I still have sales showing up over two months after disabling my account. I got a response with a link to close the account, but the link is cut off in the email, so it doesn't work. Does anyone know how to permanently delete my account here? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GregDPhotos Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Elena Umyskova said: The same story. Looks like stock owners collusion. So cost reduction started on SS, was planned on other stocks also. People, who has disabled sales, hang on there. It's important. Possibly. 4 days into this month, and my trend is even worse than last. "Somethin' ain't right." 😏 2 Link to post Share on other sites
baypinar Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) On 8/3/2020 at 1:22 AM, Milo J said: Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion that customers will go hunt around for certain images on other agencies. There's too much out there in pretty much every category. Also, different images sell well at different agencies. If you delete a pic that was selling well over here, that doesn't necessarily mean it will become a bestseller somewhere else. I understand the frustration, and loss of motivation to upload new content here. But killing an existing port - I'm just not sure that will result in higher sales of those images elsewhere. I see many people still don't understand or recognize that most of the 0.10 cent royalties come from images given for free. So, deleting such images makes sense, because the customers like but receive them for free through shutterstock. I am sure other agencies do similar things, but most of them don't give ridiculous 0.10 cents, or at least their RPD is higher. Edited August 5, 2020 by baypinar grammar 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Abir Bhattacharya Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Congratulations Adobe 8 Link to post Share on other sites
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