SciPhi.tv Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 11:44 AM, Giambattista Lazazzera said: From June 1st to today I have exceeded 100 downloads. I should now be at level 2. Why are my photos still getting paid 10 cents? I had this same issue. The move to the next level is based on the number of sales you make this calendar year. So although I had a total of 250 lifetime sales by June 2020 (joined July 2019), I only had 160 sales in 2020. If I go over 250 sales before December this year, then I will move to level 3... and then reset to level 1 Jan 1 2021. Link to post Share on other sites
stockername Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Hey guys! I'm level 6 And most of the sales are $0.10 So the level system is a fake from Shutterstock Drop 40% with the same sales 12 Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Prott Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 hours ago, paula french said: That was very misleading on DT - I sold more than normal in June - and DID NOT receive 10% extra - I emailed and basically was told I wasn't eligible for some reason - i don't why why!! I told them that it was misleading contributors but they didn't really reply to that! It only applies to newly sold sub plans from June 1. If a buyer downloads an image with an old plan you only get the old 0.35$. That was indeed communicated in a misleading way. Link to post Share on other sites
luca pbl Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 21 hours ago, paula french said: That was very misleading on DT - I sold more than normal in June - and DID NOT receive 10% extra - I emailed and basically was told I wasn't eligible for some reason - i don't why why!! I told them that it was misleading contributors but they didn't really reply to that! As far as I understand, they pay 0.38 for subs subscribed after June 1st, for the previous 0.35. In fact, I have mixed sales, some 0.38 others 0.35 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Coincidence? Sales have dried up since I started deleting images which have sold. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Michael W.Ishak Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just started an account with SS few days ago and had my 1st sakes today.. can’t figure out why I have only 9 dollars out of 79 until I saw the table minutes ago.. what a joke! 🤮 Link to post Share on other sites
Kittyfly Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Hello! I have 2,585 Downloads but level 4. Why didn't I get level 5? Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteaster Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 5:31 PM, Luigi Bertello said: I am a contributor from Italy, I have always privileged to upload my photos first on SS than on other online archives, both in terms of sales and revenues. After this ingenious thought, my earnings have decreased by three times ... I do not cancel my existing portfolio, it would be wasted further time, but I do not intend to upload new (and good) contents. I will load them on those of the competitors, which seems to me already more fierce....(and cheered by the suicide of SS) I believe that SS will lose many pro-contributors and a market segment, in exchange for some gains at the beginning. Garbage royalties means garbage content. I refuse to put quality content on here at these rates. Good competition to GI without us... Thanks for letting us all know about your intentions. Still, what's with the long spam text? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Whiteaster Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 12:24 PM, Tony ALS said: Coincidence? Sales have dried up since I started deleting images which have sold. It's logic, not coincidence. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wilm Ihlenfeld Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 My monthly statistics for July 2020 are ready. shutterstock: Although I haven't uploaded a single image since June 1st, 2020 and I had deleted an additional 10% of my images - and despite Corona I had 7% more downloads in July 2020 - compared to July 2019. This plus of downloads brought me a loss of income of minus 29% compared to July 2019, even though I would have to get 5% more commission through level 5, because now I get 35% - at the old highest level it was only 30%. As shutterstock wrote: "...and reward performance with greater earnings potential". So: I performed better than in 2019, because I had more downloads. But where are the "greater earnings", Kate? Where does the 29% loss of revenue come from? In July 2020 I had 117 subs for $0.10 The average income for all subs together is $0.22. This is a minus of 42% for the subs - despite an improved ranking. Since there are hardly any ODs, Enhanced and SODs left, this simply cannot be compensated. By the way, in July I earned 27% more at AS than at shutterstock. And this even though I didn't have any Enhanced or SOD on AS. 14 Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Laschon Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 With this new scheme: more downloads, less money. Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Dunn Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 5/26/2020 at 4:54 PM, SmallWorldProduction said: The fact that you guys try to sell this as a good thing to us is incredibly funny😂 Why would someone get reseted every January?! How does that make any sense despite the fact that you Guys get more money at the beginning of the year?! We instead will get less money for the same amount of work we put into a piece of content. You could have at least put Video and Photo together but yet you continue to make our lifes harder even in times of a global pandemic. Well said It seems like a ridiculous & brutal industry made worse by these tech people. Photography & design is a REAL no worker protection 'I'm alright jack you can starve' type of industry. That's why I got out of it back in the 90's. What won't help is other areas of this industry that isn't stock will probably be pleased because they hated the new digital stock industry because it is a threat to their lively hoods. Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Whiteaster said: It's logic, not coincidence. Maybe, but then another $0.10 sale appeared so another image deleted🙄 Link to post Share on other sites
Loke Yek Mang Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 yesterday, i have no chose have to buy the footage from SS. i bought the 10 video pack cost me USD669 +6% tax. which is mean SS will get 668USD from the 10 contributor footage, and paid them 10cents for each contributor footage. is that fair? 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Natwood Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 2:52 AM, Cappelletti_pictures said: They won´t because they´re are not cutting customer prices down just our earnings. Customers are running out of images here and have been looking over at competition because the same images keep popping up in search queries for years in shutter. I think SS were not sure whether earnings reduction for contributors would go smooth. They needed to check it out before lowering their prices for the customers. Now, when they've seen that everything went cool – the contributors keep selling their images on SS and the microstock keeps growing – they know that they have enough room for dropping prices. And they will do it, just wait and see. And when they do it, other microstocks will have no choice but to cut prices too and, of course, the contributors' earnings as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
miquelito Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Fucking greedy owners, no wonder Jon Oringer is a billionaire. I am deleting my account. 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Dunn Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, miquelito said: Fucking greedy owners, no wonder Jon Oringer is a billionaire. I am deleting my account. agree totally.it is completely wrong in a so called democracy which they call The USA. Great thing is D Trump doesn't like these tech tycoons so he could break these tech companies up, 2 Link to post Share on other sites
baypinar Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 9:16 PM, Tony ALS said: Maybe, but then another $0.10 sale appeared so another image deleted🙄 So far, I deleted 14 images that are sold for 0.10. And meanwhile they sell elsewhere for 0.38, etc. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Milo J Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 2:24 AM, Tony ALS said: Coincidence? Sales have dried up since I started deleting images which have sold. You deleted those pictures that were selling, and now they don't sell anymore? Amazing coincidence. Link to post Share on other sites
Milo J Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 14 hours ago, Loke Yek Mang said: yesterday, i have no chose have to buy the footage from SS. i bought the 10 video pack cost me USD669 +6% tax. which is mean SS will get 668USD from the 10 contributor footage, and paid them 10cents for each contributor footage. is that fair? That would indeed be awful, but those $0.10 sales are image subs, not footage. Under a 10-clip pack, the contributor would get between $9.90 and $19.80 per clip sold, depending on their level. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Milo J said: You deleted those pictures that were selling, and now they don't sell anymore? Amazing coincidence. Don't think you're following the plot🤨. The time spent getting images onto shutterstock makes deleting the lot an annoying prospect so by deleting them gradually and having them available on other sites means at least I get something for my time but once sold they are no longer available here. By the end of this year what's left will all be deleted. Only uploading new content onto other sites and so far over 2,000 images with 1,600 not on shutterstock since March 2020. Hope you are successful with whatever you are doing Milo J but more importantly staying healthy. Best of luck. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Milo J Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion that customers will go hunt around for certain images on other agencies. There's too much out there in pretty much every category. Also, different images sell well at different agencies. If you delete a pic that was selling well over here, that doesn't necessarily mean it will become a bestseller somewhere else. I understand the frustration, and loss of motivation to upload new content here. But killing an existing port - I'm just not sure that will result in higher sales of those images elsewhere. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Milo J said: Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion that customers will go hunt around for certain images on other agencies. There's too much out there in pretty much every category. Also, different images sell well at different agencies. If you delete a pic that was selling well over here, that doesn't necessarily mean it will become a bestseller somewhere else. I understand the frustration, and loss of motivation to upload new content here. But killing an existing port - I'm just not sure that will result in higher sales of those images elsewhere. As this isn't my living if they don't sell elsewhere it's not going to make any difference to me and at $0.10 per sale it might as well be nothing. It must be devastating to those who do live from stock and I would like to see Shutterstock wither and die and everybody to move elsewhere if it's possible for them to do so. AS seems to be working for some although the editorial barrier is a problem. I am new to all of this but having run my own business for 30 years it is appalling to change terms in the way it was done for contributors with almost no notice. i wouldn't attempt something similar with my clients, they would all run away! The timing given this health crises is of course making the whole situation even worse. At the end of this year switching off portfolios here might make SS sit up and take notice if enough do it. Even if there is a positive change for contributors the trust has been lost. Sad. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
mpessaris Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 so after 2 months..i ve got more or less the same number of downloads, around 120, mostly subs obviously..so the math is easily done...without enhanced or on demand sales i'm screwed and august won't sell much... and sadly expecting them to change things is just stupid...changing things would mean they would have to apologise somehow and we all know that's not gonna happen pfff 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Tony ALS Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, mpessaris said: so after 2 months..i ve got more or less the same number of downloads, around 120, mostly subs obviously..so the math is easily done...without enhanced or on demand sales i'm screwed and august won't sell much... and sadly expecting them to change things is just stupid...changing things would mean they would have to apologise somehow and we all know that's not gonna happen pfff I don't expect anything to improve either. New contributors might believe $0.10 is normal. As has been said here before, a race to the bottom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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