New earnings structure for Contributors

[Svetlana Satsiuk]

my statistics June 27 $ 💀

I saw these figures only at the beginning of my work with the SS

this is a shock

[sima]

2 hours ago, Svetlana Satsiuk said:

my statistics June 27 $ 💀

I saw these figures only at the beginning of my work with the SS

this is a shock

I can not understand, 27$ for month with Your portfolio?

[Przemek Iciak]

3 hours ago, Svetlana Satsiuk said:

my statistics June 27 $ 💀

I saw these figures only at the beginning of my work with the SS

this is a shock

You mean $270? Right? haha

[Anita Ponne]

3 hours ago, Svetlana Satsiuk said:

my statistics June 27 $ 💀

I saw these figures only at the beginning of my work with the SS

this is a shock

This cannot be, with a port like that!

[Rocky Grimes]

Just had a photo sell for $3.75 yesterday, even though my portfolio has been disabled for 2 weeks. I'm doing better now per sale with a disabled account than I was prior to it.

[Mirko Rosenau]

3 hours ago, Svetlana Satsiuk said:

my statistics June 27 $ 💀

I saw these figures only at the beginning of my work with the SS

this is a shock

Get used to it. Most likely this will get worst. Once clients notice the new level of quality content, not having the latest images, and so on..., the clients will shift to purchase from other platforms. It has already started and will be a slow but continuing trend.

 

If Shutterstock does not reverse they will quickly slip to a none important platform. Also, if Shutterstock wants to reverse course they need to hurry up. The damage has been already great for them. 

[Mirko Rosenau]

7 minutes ago, Rocky Grimes said:

Just had a photo sell for $3.75 yesterday, even though my portfolio has been disabled for 2 weeks. I'm doing better now per sale with a disabled account than I was prior to it.

So, how do you even know that Shutterstock is not selling your images without any pay to you? 

If Shutterstock cheats here, they are not trust worthy in general. This is a serious concern! 

[Whiteaster]

4 hours ago, Svetlana Satsiuk said:

my statistics June 27 $ 💀

I saw these figures only at the beginning of my work with the SS

this is a shock

This is really bad, sorry. I would say hold in there for another month, you have a big and good port, it must be just bad luck what can happen to each of us. This is what we have to expect from the new SS, each of us.

[alekseigl]

4 minutes ago, Whiteaster said:

 it must be just bad luck what can happen to each of us.

in my humble opinion, luck is the last thing to hope for. especially in such a business

[Rocky Grimes]

25 minutes ago, Mirko Rosenau said:

So, how do you even know that Shutterstock is not selling your images without any pay to you? 

If Shutterstock cheats here, they are not trust worthy in general. This is a serious concern! 

How does anyone know that?

 

I think it’s more likely to be delayed earnings. Unlikely SS is secretly selling my stuff and then paying me for those secret sales.

[Mirko Rosenau]

7 minutes ago, Rocky Grimes said:

How does anyone know that?

 

 

I think it’s more likely to be delayed earnings. Unlikely SS is secretly selling my stuff and then paying me for those secret sales.

Delayed by 2 weeks? That is not how it works unfortunately. 

[Antonio Salaverry]

Ok, with 1 month of statistics I got 24% decrease in incoming (I'm currently level 4).

It doesn't seem to be as bad as everyone is putting (For images, not videos). But yes it is bad, considering it was already too cheap.

[GregDPhotos]

32 minutes ago, Antonio Salaverry said:

Ok, with 1 month of statistics I got 24% decrease in incoming (I'm currently level 4).

It doesn't seem to be as bad as everyone is putting (For images, not videos). But yes it is bad, considering it was already too cheap.

What was the change in your RPD?

[tom.e.rodriguez]

So, I deleted my portfolio and requested for my payout of 3 HD clips for a grand total of .78 cents - SS refuses to pay since they say they don't payout anything less than $1.00. It's hard to imagine - what is this country becoming with all that's happening. Never seen or heard of such business practices in my long career. 

Mind you it's not the .78 cents - its the principal of the matter.

[Akshay Gurnani]

Wow, I just made my Contributor profile 3 days ago and now I'm starting to regret it. 

[Rocky Grimes]

4 hours ago, Mirko Rosenau said:

So, how do you even know that Shutterstock is not selling your images without any pay to you? 

If Shutterstock cheats here, they are not trust worthy in general. This is a serious concern! 

Although Shutterstock has changed its business model to the detriment of the contributors I don’t agree with your skepticism or believe they are blatantly and illegally selling our photos behind our backs.

My support here is that I disabled all of my contributions on Shutterstock as everyone should do if they support the effort here.   Why are you still selling on Shutterstock?

And, I ask you, for the second time, the same question you asked me; “So, how do you even know that Shutterstock is not selling your images without any pay to you?”   Well?   My answer is that they are not. What say you?

[jjmillan]

Ya solo faltan 7 meses para pasar todos  a nivel 1

Es lo mas justo

[Natwood]

On 6/30/2020 at 11:49 PM, Neo Geometric said:

😃

Haha cool. But don't worry, you'll find many survivors on Pond5, AS, DT, Alamy and maybe other decent places.

[Natwood]

5 hours ago, Antonio Salaverry said:

It doesn't seem to be as bad as everyone is putting

"as everyone is putting" Wow. Do you mean people lie about their statistics? 

[Mirko Rosenau]

4 hours ago, Rocky Grimes said:

Although Shutterstock has changed its business model to the detriment of the contributors I don’t agree with your skepticism or believe they are blatantly and illegally selling our photos behind our backs.

My support here is that I disabled all of my contributions on Shutterstock as everyone should do if they support the effort here.   Why are you still selling on Shutterstock?

And, I ask you, for the second time, the same question you asked me; “So, how do you even know that Shutterstock is not selling your images without any pay to you?”   Well?   My answer is that they are not. What say you?

Sorry Rocky, maybe I should have been more clear. I'm not claiming that Shutterstock is doing those things. I'm saying that there seem to be discrepancies where questions should be ask. I'm currently not selling on Shutterstock. It is disabled at the moment. (Try to buy an image and you will see) However, I turn it back on from time to time to see if the pricing has changed. Shutterstock can steer  which product they want to push..

To you last question, we simply do not know, but we have to watch if there are other discrepancies. Which brings us back to the point, that if there is something is not adding up with sales made from portfolios disabled weeks ago, what else is wrong?

[Levtrona]

As just now my last payment is on its way, i guess my account will be closed for good in a few days. i would like to say bye bye to my fellow contributors and add two more things:

It is absolutely right to stand up against injustice but If you have to get in contact with SS staff, please be friendly and respectful. It is not their decision. It is not their fault. I guess many of of us have worked for s*** companys, because we needed a job. Raging doesnt make you feel better.

I know everyone is really excited about the other stock agency starting with A. Do not rely on one company alone. Spread your images for sale anywhere possible. Do not put all your eggs in one basket. (if that is the right saying)

peace my friends.

[Andreas Prott]

So June is over and its time for a real statistic. How did I do it? I took all downloads and restated them with what the old earnings scheme would have brought. This eliminates the possible bias of changed RPDs or fluctuation of DL numbers. It simply says how much would I have earned in the old system and how much did I get in the new system - plain and simple.

I am currently on level 4 for stills and on level 1 for video since I only just started to upload videos from time to time (didn't upload anything from May 26th). Life time earnings are below 3.000$ since I began late after giving up iStock exclusivity. So my sub payment used to be 0,33$ and there was not a fall as steep as from 0,38$.

For stills my loss of income is 17% and for video it is 50%. In total the loss is 29%.

Very interesting are also as-if-models for January. My loss will then be 52% with Level 1 applied and 42% with level 2 applied. Since even with Level 4 I make a substantial loss plus the loss until reaching level 4 in the beginning of each year I see no motivation to further upload and will decide EOY whether to disable my whole port. I didn't model what my loss would have been with Level 5 (because we can't without figures for the original price for sub DLs) but I can't imagine that the 17% gap for stills would be closed with 35% instead of 30% seeing masses of 0,10$ downloads. And Level 5 suppliers surely had higher life time earnings and thus higher old scheme earnings than me.

I am 100% sure that Shutterstock did a complete restatement of last years payouts with the new scheme and came up with a huge profit when even Level 5 sellers struggle to keep their earnings. But they surely won't share.

[botiordog]

On 6/27/2020 at 11:40 PM, Bruno Rodrigues B Silva said:

Is he for real ? lmao shutterstock just pulled the ole' seppuku.

thats a man who never made a stock video or image in his life

[Neo Geometric]

May 948 430,51$

June 1079 278,18$

😑

So it goes. There was more. There was an incentive to ship. Now there is no such desire. Increase in SS sales? stay on the market say? Make quality content that gets lost in this madness?

Most sales are under $ 0.20.

I thought unfair things happen only in my country.

Censorship appeared.

SS began to jerk. You can see how the articles are trying to motivate the participants.

Fortunately, the creativmarket website had sales.

[baypinar]

As an amateur I believe that I should not pay for shutterstock shareholders lavish lifestyles. Considering the wear of equipment, even if it is a smartphone or a low profile DSLR, the transport and telecom costs, and the private time spent for keywording, etc, I feel that I am subsidizing Shutterstock. Why should I do that? Other sites are also fun. Besides, their RPD is 4 to 100 times more (considering Alamy, especially). 

 

My conclusion is to delete each image as they are sold first time, until no images are left here. Since they are sold for 0.10 cents, I lose nothing. But it will lead to a lot of paperwork there in the office for sure.