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  1. 4 hours ago, Studio 2 said:

    Thank you for these threads @Rudy Umans They are like therapy compared to last year's conflicts.

    It's all your fault!  When i was lurking during my "retreat", I read your thread of some time ago "Is photography art" and I thought that was inspiring.

    Obviously in the world of microstock, a lot of people do whatever without much thought other than the dollars at the end of the month. That is fine. It is their  prerogative and I have no problems with that whatsoever. None of my business anyway. On the other hand, there are  a lot of contributors who would also like to grow in whatever it is they do. We see a lot of threads and posts about that and threads like this are meant for them.


  2. 8 minutes ago, Starsphinx said:

    I am not at all sure that is a useful quote - especially for newbies and those wanting to learn.  I am currently working on learning/improving drawing skills.  One of the things I am being encouraged to "unlearn" is the idea that copying and imitation are bad.  They are only bad if the intent is to pass them off as the work of the one you copied - otherwise copying and immitating is a hugely important tool for learning.  I feel the suggestion that copying and immitation are only for those who dont know what they are doing to be over critical and down.  It may put people off doing the very thing they need to develop. 


    Thank you for pointing that out. It is great that you didn't take that quote at face value. It means you care and how else do we learn?


    This is how I read the quote,

    Learning and imitating are two different things. Trying to replicate an existing work can be an important learning tool. I agree. Imitating on the other hand, might have a less honorable intend and that is what was meant by Jan Groover. Her underlying message was for upcoming artist to develop your own style and for that, one has to learn the rules, which can be broken once you know them.

    If one doesn't follow those steps (Learning, developing, knowing when and how to break the rules, etc ) one might never be able to pass step one and those are the people who (most likely) don't know what they are doing and some might resort to imitation to compensate for their lack of willingness to learn or hide their laziness




  3. for photographers, Graphic designers, and illustrators

    There are quotes that are helpful and applicable for what we are doing here. Some of those memorable and might even get stuck in your head.

    Looking for something a little bit memorable, meaningful, and useful.

    If you have any of those, you can post them here, but please give credit if you know where the quote came from.

    I start:

    If nobody has any quotes, at least remember this one

    "Imitation is only for those who don't know what they are doing" - Jan Groover, (famous) Photographer 1943-2012

    (so, don't let that happen to you)

  4. 10 minutes ago, Sari ONeal said:

    Rudy do you remember the name of the lady on SS that took pics of her two little boys in a very story-telling way? She was from some place in Eastern Europe, I think I remember seeing some pics from Prague? I'll have to see if I can find her port.


    edit - haha, found it like in two secs...LOL


    Looks like the little ones grew up and she might have a third one, too? :)


    She has so many good ones, but the real gems are hard to find now :(

    I do now! lol  ("Do you remember...."  is asking a lot Sari :) )


    I like these a little better then the one Whiteaster link to frankly. Not so much post processing

  5. 37 minutes ago, Whiteaster said:

    Hi Rudy, nice thread.

    Just like Sari, I don't know famous photographers or care about but I've seen some that amazed me right here on SS (won't name them).

    There is still a famous photographer, Elena Shumilova, a mother who photographs her kids in everyday life in the countryside, in a magical way that I've never seen before.
    I would like to learn to use the light the way she does, (just dreaming).

    Thank you and no, they don't have to be famous.

    I have seen her work before. She is very good indeed

  6. Thanks Wendy. I understand about trees (and forest)needing fire. Same here in South Florida

    We have a lot of your Melaleuca trees and Australian pines (at least, that's what they are called here and thanks for that btw.) They can burn all they want, but fire doesn't seem to kill those invaders. Especially not Maleleuca. they seems to be as hardy as Australians :)

  7. 52 minutes ago, Milleflore Images said:
    Apologies for hogging the thread, Rudy. I must go! lol

    You're not hogging the thread. Discussions like this are a welcoming side effect of this kind of threads. They open our minds and widen our horizons.

    As far as Annie Leibovitz goes, I liked her better in the "old" days when she was a little bit more hands on instead of being a production manager, but either way, she is a heck of a photographer.  Maybe for me personally her best days were when she was a photographer for Rolling Stone Magazine.

    (every freakin' time I want to write Photographer I write Photogrpaher! Why is that? lol)

  8. 13 minutes ago, Studio 2 said:

    Going to sneak in another one and be disobedient. She is 19th Century. Julia Margaret Cameron. Amazing for a woman to achieve what she did at the time. I have visited her house on the Isle of Wight. I find her images very evocative. 

    She is amazing. Her pictures had a great influence on the pictorialism movement.

    Check out  Gertrude Kasebier


  9. 20 minutes ago, Marco Fine said:

    Yes of course, I'm interested.
    My idea on the first photo is that, in addition to the crooked lines, the colors are quite far from reality (too strong PP), and also the focus is rather soft, especially on the sides.
    I think that this same image would not be accepted today by SS.

    Not looking at the focus since I can't tell that from these images anyway, the first (crooked) one is better I think because of the composition and exposure. The horizon is in a much better place in the first one. There are also less distracting elements on the right side. Unlike you apparently, I think that the colors in the second one are not realistic.The colors are overcooked, the skies are all blown out and there is too much distraction going on on the left. It would also be hard to crop the second on on the left side because then you would cut the bridge in half and a bridge to nowhere doesn't look all that great.

    just my opinion. Yours (and others) may vary

  10. 27 minutes ago, Sari ONeal said:

    I don't even know names of 5 "famous" photographers, much less would I know anything about anyone's work, so I couldn't even discuss the topic.

    I don't know, and I don't care, as I don't see how any of that would be inspirational to me.

    Maybe that's why I suck at this, as I'm not willing to "aspire to be like person X".


    That said, I have full respect for those who CAN draw inspiration from others' work! Good for you! :)

    Thw thing with me is Sari, I don't read photography magazines or "how to" books anymore, but I do read books about other photographers and art in general.

    Anyway, they don't have to be famous and everybody (even you :)) gets influenced  by something or somebody one way or the other.  In some things it is just more obvious than in others. Like music for instance is much more obvious.

    In general I think it is a beautiful thing

  11. 7 hours ago, Foodio said:

    It would be impossible for me to narrow it down to five after a very good friend of my fathers who was a pro studio tog before he passed away.

    I have to agree with Sexton. He would be at the top of my list too.

    There are a lot more whose work I love (dead or alive), but not every photographer I love influenced me.

    Ultimately I think that these 5 had the most influence on me.

  12. What is your top 5 photographers who influenced you the most in your photography (for stock or art) ?

    19th, 20th, or 21st century and dead or alive and doesn't have to famous

    Mine are: (not in any particular order)

    • Alfred Stieglitz ( A very influential photographer and gallery owner in the beginning of the 20th century. Without him, the USA art world might have looked different today)
    • Edward Steichen (Friend of Stieglitz, co founder of Gallery 291, At the time world best known fashion photographer. Worked for Conde Naste)
    • Margaret Bourke-white (She is somewhat of a hero to me. Fearless woman and among the first 4 photographers for Life Magazine)
    • John Sexton (assistant to Ansel Adams. His black and white is unequaled )
    • Man Ray (he was a great contribution to have photography recognized as art. Especially surrealism-what I love)
  13. 3 minutes ago, Milleflore Images said:

    Thanks. We're fine here, we live near the beach, but what's happened to Australia as a whole has been really upsetting and has a lot of long term consequences. 

    Most things will recuperate, but will take decades or longer. Other things will never recuperate 



    ......... With apologies to Matteo for hijacking his thread ...........

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